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Kids on the Farm

Posted by Lisa Cotter on October 4, 2013 at 8:49pm in Showing

My first kids to arrive on the farm, due November 30th

Vernal, the wether (right) & his sister Equinox (white face)

Their Dam - Furthur Foolish Heart, first freshener.

I would like to know what those more experienced with goat think of these kids and their mother's first freshening. How does her udder look?

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  • Lisa Cotter October 9, 2013 at 10:41am

    http://furthurfarm.ca/bucks.htm   This is a link to Equinox's great grand-dam on her father's side, scroll down to the buck, Fu Man Chu.

    Haven't been able to find very many udder pictures for her parentage. Her grand-dam went Grand Champion as a junior doe. I know genetics on both sides play a role in what you get.

    I wanted to see if what I was seeing was the same as what other people would pick out since I'm so new to this. Hope you understand that statement, lol. 

    Thanks for the information on the udder changing with freshening.

  • Rachel Whetzel at MigMog Acres October 7, 2013 at 12:36pm

    Yes, udders will continue to develop and change with each freshening. For at least the first few. Maybe more... I don't really know past the first three or four! lol

    The thing to remember also, is that this dam is only a PART of the equation in your kid's genetics! The things that you see here that you don't like, might be countered if there was thought put into breeding... can you look at pictures of the kid's grandmother on their father's side? Her udder will play into what you end up with!

    Lisa Cotter said:

    Thanks for sharing your opinion, I appreciate it.

    I'm after milk production more then conformation even though I'd like my goats to be strong in that area I'm not thinking I'll be showing them. When this page was shared http://www.debpnigerians.com/choosingyourgoat.htm I was looking at their mother to determine her conformation. I did notice that her teats point out to the side more then they probably should. The udder picture was taken at 2 weeks fresh, 10 hours from last milking. Does udder changes happen with each freshening?

    The kids are quite cute.. I'm so excited :)

  • Lisa Cotter October 7, 2013 at 12:01pm

    Thanks for sharing your opinion, I appreciate it.

    I'm after milk production more then conformation even though I'd like my goats to be strong in that area I'm not thinking I'll be showing them. When this page was shared http://www.debpnigerians.com/choosingyourgoat.htm I was looking at their mother to determine her conformation. I did notice that her teats point out to the side more then they probably should. The udder picture was taken at 2 weeks fresh, 10 hours from last milking. Does udder changes happen with each freshening?

    The kids are quite cute.. I'm so excited :)

    Patty Meyer said:

    I'm sure others will have more experience and more or different things to say, but IMO,  the dam looks nice in many ways.  Front legs come out under her nicely and look pretty straight.  Back legs migh toe out a bit, but she has width which is good.   Udder looks nice and wide.  However, her teats seem pointing out to the sides, and she looks like her medial suspensory ligament is weak.  Pictures can be hard to go by, though (and hard to tell why she looks that way).  Also, as has been said many times here, the perfect looking udder may not be so milky as it should, or be hard to milk.  If you're after milk, how much she gives and how easily you can get it is probably more important that a perfect looking udder. :)

    Those are cute kids!   I love the color. :)  Congratulations!

  • Patty Meyer October 5, 2013 at 11:53am

    I'm sure others will have more experience and more or different things to say, but IMO,  the dam looks nice in many ways.  Front legs come out under her nicely and look pretty straight.  Back legs migh toe out a bit, but she has width which is good.   Udder looks nice and wide.  However, her teats seem pointing out to the sides, and she looks like her medial suspensory ligament is weak.  Pictures can be hard to go by, though (and hard to tell why she looks that way).  Also, as has been said many times here, the perfect looking udder may not be so milky as it should, or be hard to milk.  If you're after milk, how much she gives and how easily you can get it is probably more important that a perfect looking udder. :)

    Those are cute kids!   I love the color. :)  Congratulations!

  • Lisa Cotter October 4, 2013 at 8:52pm

    Hope these allow you to enlarge the pictures.

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