One of my nubian doelings has a pretty bad underbite. I probly shouldnt be using her for breeding should I?! Could she be sold as a pet or am I gonna have to throw her on a meat truck??
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Just quickly checked with a Nubian breeder, as well as an ADGA judge, and they said that undershot jaws do tend to be more common in Nubians, however, that does not mean that it is considered less serious or that a judge would ignore it. If it is a slight undershot, one judge might not notice it while another one would. The more severe the undershot, the more likely the doe would wind up being placed towards the end of the line at a show. The breeder said that some Nubian lines tend to have more undershot jaws than others because some breeders don't seem too concerned about it while others cull for it.
"Undershot or overshot jaw" is listed as a slight to serious defect in the ADGA Guidebook, and I have seen a goat placed last at a show for that reason. The owner did not even show the goat in the second ring and was planning to contact the breeder about a refund or replacement or something. The slight to serious category is kind of odd because it also includes things like pocket in the fore udder, and there are champions out there with pockets. On the other hand, most of the things in this category doom an animal to last place every time. This is in the "general defect" section and makes no exception for breeds. Maybe what the breeder is saying is that your doe will outgrow it?
Well I just got off the phone with the gal I get all my nubians from and she said it can be normal for nubians To have underbites ecspecially when theyre kids because of their roman noses. But at times they can get too severe. An overbite isnt good at all. That is what you really dont want. But anyways im gonna send a picture out to her in the next couple days and she said then she can tell me what to do with her! So im hoping that it isnt that bad. I love my little doeling and I would hate for such a beautiful doe that comes out of nice blood lines be sold for meat. But if it does come down to that...then I guess I gotta do what I gotta do. Its a bummer sometimes! Anyways thank you everyone very much! Hope this is helping others too! Lol
Kolti, I haven't really checked her kids... her kids from last year don't seem to have any issues... I'll check them too. lol I didn't realize underbite was an issue until you posted! lol
We plan to eat our goats. I'm still building my herd, so I will keep some doelings from a few of the breedings. I do have a friend that wants goats for brushing, so I'll be selling her two wethers from my babies this year. Even though these are dairy goats, I figure I can let my dams raise babies up to about 3 months (to get them up to a comparable size to large goats), and then butcher. Cabrito is good meat I hear! (we've only eaten a grown goat so far)
I will try and get some pictures of the underbite on here by this weekend!! To me it might look like its gotten better but im not too sure yet considering she is so young still. Im gonna wait to see what it does and if it doesnt change depending on how bad it looks I will try and sell her as a pet only but if its pretty bad we will probly eat her ourselves. :( She just cant be friendly but I would like to keep her hide if we do decide to eat her. I probly sound kinda cold hearted but Iv actually been wanting a goat hide of my own for a while. But I would keep her if I had a meat herd but all I have is a little dairy herd and I have a limit of 10 goats!! (Not inclueding babies) She is so gorgeous!! Why couldnt it have been the buckling with the underbite!?
Sorry I missed that you said "doeling" and I know exactly which one you are talking about! I LOVE HER and I would love to find me some like that! I bet you are bummed out over this. Is there no chance since she is so young that it might change as she grows, if it isn't to bad, I mean? I guess you have a hard decision to make. I would hate to see her be eaten. I wish she were here! If she had been born here and could eat ok etc. I would keep her in my meat herd for raising meat only, if nothing else!
Rachel do you breed that doe?! Does she produce kids with an underbite?!
Shes 2 weeks old. She is the beautiful brown and white spotted doeling I posted pictures of!! Im really bummed out!! :(
You know Kolti, I am thinking that like many things in life, there may be more than one right answer to that! You obviously are not opposed to eating a cull, so that gives me another idea. First I would like to know a couple of things:
1) Is this an adult or a doeling?
2) If she is an adult, how good of a producer is she, assuming she has already been productive?
Ginger has an underbite... it seems to have gotten more pronounced with age...
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