Breeding strategies with no buck?

Though I am likely in the minority here with not owning my own buck, there must be more out there in the same situation.  Even though I will never be breeding my girls to sell the offspring (only what is necessary for code restrictions), I would like to continue the high-quality bloodline they have.  I have found the perfect buck, unfortunately he is not available for outside breeding and A.I. is not an option from that particular buck.

What do you do when it is time to breed?

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  • Oh, Melissa, I know this is an old thread but I have new news.  Is that a phrase, new news?  I think we had a thing in junior high about new gnus in the news and the old gnus were old news and no new news about the old gnus.  Junior high is far too long ago to get it right.<g>  But . . . you, especially, will appreciate this.  I have located Stuart!  And even better, his new owner is willing to let him breed my does (with new testing of course).  I am so delighted.  Summer is an incredible milker; I can only imagine what high quality does the two of them will produce!  Summer's grandfather is a Camanna buck and her father and grandfather are Castle Rock bucks.  Combining that with Stuart's background should be a winning combination especially since Summer is such a great milker.  I lucked into such a special girl with her.

    Now, to catch my girls at the right time when I am ready to have them bred.  I am waiting for Summer because she is still milking 3/4-quart a day at eleven months when I didn't start until at four months.  I'm waiting until she drops to a pint or below to have her bred and then dry her up when she tests positive for pregnancy and give her a rest. I am so delighted with her.

    Melissa Johnson said:

    Glenna, Poppy Patch - goes without saying - exceptional goats.  Crazy is the sire to a buck I almost bought - except I was afraid he might become over height - His name is Poppy Patch CM Stuart - he is on their website under sires.  I thought he was awesome.

  • the names of the goats are under the pics - instead of above. little confusing for sure.

    Margaret Langley said:

    ok I just left this website and I am totally confused about who is who and whatever! I just can't seem to figure out which pictures and names go together etc. Sorry, although there are some obviously nice goats in the pics I don't know who they are. I thought legend was a buck and I am seeing a doe and... Oh forget it! I just can't make heads or tells of it.

  • to my knowledge, you just put them in a jar with a tight lid - mine didnt remain smelly that long.

  • Hesitated starting another thread for this question so will add on here.  I think I'll try the buck rag thing.  When I get it/them, should I put it/them in the freezer until it looks like Summer might be in heat?

  • Wow, Shannon!  It looks like I have been blessed with super beginner's luck and stumbled into having myself a great "herd" as well as potential future youngsters.  And to think, the main reason I wanted to purchase does from Joann if she ever had any to sell had nothing to do with pedigree - it was all about how much she clearly loves her goats and how happy the little jewels are.  They are pampered and loved, every one of them.  Of course, I would not have paid the bigger bucks (pun?) for unregistered animals.  That they are registered meant to me that it would be easier to sell those I cannot keep in the future.  More importantly, I will not unwittingly breed one of my does to one of her close relatives.

    The goat guardians were definitely looking out for me.  It was Joann's kindness of offering to let me visit her Nigerian Dwarf goats that got this started.  I had posted on a sustainable living group that I would like to see some and learn about them as I was considering getting a pair.  That was three years ago and she had no plans to sell any then; however, goats have a tendency to multiply.  I had asked her to contact me if she ever had any to sell - and here I am bugging all of you.

    This spring, most of her babies are light colored; one of her does had triplets who one would swear are identical.  She cannot tell them apart.  It is a very, very bad thing to visit someone with five kids bopping around; if you didn't already have goat fever, it's guaranteed to alight.<g> (On a sad note, this year she lost two kids which was the first time she has lost any and with the vet in attendance.)

  • ok I just left this website and I am totally confused about who is who and whatever! I just can't seem to figure out which pictures and names go together etc. Sorry, although there are some obviously nice goats in the pics I don't know who they are. I thought legend was a buck and I am seeing a doe and... Oh forget it! I just can't make heads or tells of it.

  • We have them!! lol

    Shannon C Stangeland said:

    (always wonder don't they have Nigerian wethers in OR?)

  • As far as I know, there is no web site.  You can search for both the boys and see photos, etc., for them from their farms of origin by entering their names in your browser search engine.  "Poppy Patch Crazy She Calls Me" is the buck unrelated to any of mine, "Camanna GB Moonlight Legend" is unrelated to my two adult does and is Ginger's dad.  Breeding Ginger to Crazy will give me the advantage of at least three excellent milk lines.  Joann doesn't usually do outside breeding and mine will be only her second exception because my girls come from her herd and are not around others.  She actually bought her boys because she was having some issues with breeding also.  That works fine for those on acreage but then there are those few like me who don't have that option.

    Isn't that some udder though - could I be so lucky as to have some does like that?  Would be perfect since I have only the three to alternate for milk (or even pets) and I doubt that I could ever let my baby (Ginger) go.  Of course, it will be difficult to ever let her mom and sister go to a new home also so this is going to have a bit of heartache when new does are born if I want to keep any of the babies.  I've promised bucks to my oldest son though I might be rethinking and attempt to sell them first as they will be dinner, something I really have to get my mind and heart adjusted to.

  • Glenna, is there a web-site for these guys, so we can look at them? Which farm?

  • Oh, What a pretty udder, and Glenna there is a very real possibility that these bucks will be much better for you to use than what you were hoping for there you know. Don't know enough about all of them to say for sure but those pics are lookin' good and it sounds good too!

    Remember what I said. I wanted Tollhouse, they decided to keep him and sold his dad (Quill). So, I bought him instead and was thrilled about it. Why? Because rule of thumb with breeding animals (I learned years ago with show dogs) is, if you like a certain specimen you look to the father of that particular animal. If that isn't possible you go to his dad or brother. Same thing Shannon is talking about.

    When my son went to pick up Quill for me, she told him that she might be making a mistake and he knew as well as I did that she was probably right. The only thing spectacular that one could tell about Tollhouse as a newborn to make you want him was color! Hope for her sake he turns out nice. Cause my Quill boy is and I don't have to hope he is or produces well. He bred 4 girls in 1 day and had 14 kids born in 1 day at 12 months of age. And they are very nice looking. I made a cute collage with him in the middle and little pics of his kids surrounding him. And she sold him to keep his newborn son. That must be a little unusual.

    I think if I were you I would gladly use Catalina's sire! And maybe Legend on one too! If you feel he is as nice!

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