I am reading a book called "Storey's Guide to Raising Dairy Goats" The book states that Oak leaves are poisonous to goats...we have a Red Oak in our barnyard...is this tree really a potential problem? We also have many White and Swamp oaks on our property. Are all oak leaves poison to goats or just a certain type of oak?? Will the goats stay away from the leaves on their own? I hope someone can assure me that oak trees are ok for goats because I really do not want to destroy any of our trees!!
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yep, Madrone is better than oak to their pallet ^^
Rachel Whetzel said:
yeah, I hope what I've read is right, because they LOVE the leaves!! The dryer the better. lol And like you, Melissa, they are pretty abundant. Another one my goats LOVE is Madrone.
I don't remember reading about that... but I do know my goats enjoy eating pine!! Mine will eat cuttings of it if that's all that's in their pen.
Lyn Adams said:
I've been giving my goats pine branches, I heard it was a natural de-wormer. Has anyone else heard this ? Also heard that Artemisia ( wormwood ) is another one.
yeah, I hope what I've read is right, because they LOVE the leaves!! The dryer the better. lol And like you, Melissa, they are pretty abundant. Another one my goats LOVE is Madrone.
Rachel, that is awesome news! I always cringe when I watch them eating the oak "parts" - but that is the only tree available around their area. They like the fir needles also, but NOT if I bring it to them, only if they do the selecting. Good, one less thing to do. ^^
Rachel Whetzel said:
The oaks in Oregon are called Scrub Oak... and from what I have been able to research on line, they are OK for goats, and I have read the same about tannins and worms.
Melissa Johnson said:
given I have oaks white and red - and swamp oaks are a great way to describe since mine are sitting in water through the winter here in Oregon. The goats LOVE the leaves, acorns, bark, buds. They are not supposed to good for them because the "tannins" build up in their systems. The vet at a clinic said no green acorns. Once they ripen, not so bad. sigh......... my goats have been eating them at will for 2 years - so far they are still alive.
As a side note, I dont remember where, but I did read that tannin seemed to help control some sort of worm in goats. hum... where did I read that???
well whattayaknow - I did find an abstract, but it doesnt want me to copy and paste
it actually shows a sharp decline in coccidia after goats having been fed oak leaves - it mentioned something about pine also. it was a Korean study, they combined pine needles, oak leaves and lucerne chaff whatever that is.....
I've been giving my goats pine branches, I heard it was a natural de-wormer. Has anyone else heard this ? Also heard that Artemisia ( wormwood ) is another one.
The oaks in Oregon are called Scrub Oak... and from what I have been able to research on line, they are OK for goats, and I have read the same about tannins and worms.
Melissa Johnson said:
given I have oaks white and red - and swamp oaks are a great way to describe since mine are sitting in water through the winter here in Oregon. The goats LOVE the leaves, acorns, bark, buds. They are not supposed to good for them because the "tannins" build up in their systems. The vet at a clinic said no green acorns. Once they ripen, not so bad. sigh......... my goats have been eating them at will for 2 years - so far they are still alive.
As a side note, I dont remember where, but I did read that tannin seemed to help control some sort of worm in goats. hum... where did I read that???
well whattayaknow - I did find an abstract, but it doesnt want me to copy and paste
it actually shows a sharp decline in coccidia after goats having been fed oak leaves - it mentioned something about pine also. it was a Korean study, they combined pine needles, oak leaves and lucerne chaff whatever that is.....
given I have oaks white and red - and swamp oaks are a great way to describe since mine are sitting in water through the winter here in Oregon. The goats LOVE the leaves, acorns, bark, buds. They are not supposed to good for them because the "tannins" build up in their systems. The vet at a clinic said no green acorns. Once they ripen, not so bad. sigh......... my goats have been eating them at will for 2 years - so far they are still alive.
As a side note, I dont remember where, but I did read that tannin seemed to help control some sort of worm in goats. hum... where did I read that???
well whattayaknow - I did find an abstract, but it doesnt want me to copy and paste
it actually shows a sharp decline in coccidia after goats having been fed oak leaves - it mentioned something about pine also. it was a Korean study, they combined pine needles, oak leaves and lucerne chaff whatever that is.....
My goats have eaten red oak leaves and no problems with them. We are in the process of removing all our Mountain Laurel from the property because that is very poisonous to them.
I an having a difficult time identifying the trees in my yard. but I think one is some sort of oak tree. the goats eat the saplings growing around that big tree so I have to assume they are ok to eat since they have so much access to other good things.
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Rachel Whetzel said:
Lyn Adams said:
Rachel Whetzel said:
I've been giving my goats pine branches, I heard it was a natural de-wormer. Has anyone else heard this ? Also heard that Artemisia ( wormwood ) is another one.
The oaks in Oregon are called Scrub Oak... and from what I have been able to research on line, they are OK for goats, and I have read the same about tannins and worms.
Melissa Johnson said:
given I have oaks white and red - and swamp oaks are a great way to describe since mine are sitting in water through the winter here in Oregon. The goats LOVE the leaves, acorns, bark, buds. They are not supposed to good for them because the "tannins" build up in their systems. The vet at a clinic said no green acorns. Once they ripen, not so bad. sigh......... my goats have been eating them at will for 2 years - so far they are still alive.
As a side note, I dont remember where, but I did read that tannin seemed to help control some sort of worm in goats. hum... where did I read that???
well whattayaknow - I did find an abstract, but it doesnt want me to copy and paste
it actually shows a sharp decline in coccidia after goats having been fed oak leaves - it mentioned something about pine also. it was a Korean study, they combined pine needles, oak leaves and lucerne chaff whatever that is.....
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