My polled buck is growing horns... (??)

Miyagi is polled.  Maybe four or five months ago we started feeling these little buds on the tips of his poll "bumps".  One has grown to be maybe an inch long at this point, the other maybe half that.  They are not really horns, you can wiggle them around as if they aren't attached to bone.  They are also very thin around, maybe the circumfrence of a straw.

 

What the heck is this?  Do polled goats grow little "horns?"  His companion for the first year was a wether with big scurs, and his little poll bumps were bloodied ALL the time (he now has a polled companion)  Could that scarring have somehow caused this?

 

And finally, if anyone has ever seen such a thing, how might I go about getting rid of them?  I've heard of banding scurs, but I don't know how that would apply to these and also I don't know how much blood supply they even have if they are not attached to the bone.  I wish I could just snip them off with the hoof trimmers but I am afraid he would bleed like crazy

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  • They are both much bigger now!! Calvin and Milton are the names I settled on. I lucked out with (MY) Ginger having not only one, but TWO girls!! That means I can breed ALL FIVE of my current does to the bucks I own. :) (MY) Ginger's doelings are from the 3rd buck on my breeder's property, and totally unrelated to all my does. I would say, if you can take your does and LEAVE them at a breeder, that's the easiest way to make sure they get bred. I didn't have any luck until I was able to leave Ginger at the breeders through two heats, because I wasn't reading her signs on the right day, and I kept missing her window. Once I was able to leave her there, she let my breeder know when she was in standing heat, because she wouldn't leave the fenceline by the bucks. lol

  • How sweet!  Maybe Calvin for Cal?  It's a masculine name.  They are both such cuties.  You should be closer as I bet either of them would make a good dad for Ginger's babies.

    Rachel Whetzel said:

    Well, I can't seem to find any of the ones I was thinking of here... I did blog about my choice, and how my bucks will work.

    http://www.minetothine.com/2012/02/bucklings.html

  • Well, I can't seem to find any of the ones I was thinking of here... I did blog about my choice, and how my bucks will work.

    http://www.minetothine.com/2012/02/bucklings.html

  • I don't think I've seen any threads about AI, but there are a few to do with bucks. I'll see if I can hunt them up for you.

  • Hmmm.  Maybe I won't give up on the blue eyes. :-)

    It is my plan to breed Summer to Ginger's dad but, of course, I cannot breed Ginger to him so need to locate another buck.  Do most of you take your doe to the buck when you don't have your own buck or is AI the way to go? (Should we start a new thread about that or is there one here somewhere already?)

  • I'm interested to see what ratio of blue eyes I'll get out of my doe/buck match with blue eyes in both.

    Glenna, both goats don't have to have blue eyes to have a chance of getting them, so keep your eye out for a blue eyed boy if you really WANT them... just don't settle on a boy with blue eyes if his milking genes aren't as good as you need! Milking lines are more important than pretty and interesting markings. :)

  • I know, that's what is so weird that they are so different from us when it comes to that. Strange!

    Wait a minute on that looking for a daddy. If you want blue from your girls you CAN get them if you have a blue eyed daddy.

    I CAN'T apparently, because I will be doing my own breeding and have nothing with blue eyes. No does or bucks. I am very disappointed because I did want a chance at something blue eyed and did not realize that I could not get them. So I think my next buck will be blue eyed.

  • I'm disappointed to find that no blue-eyed babies if one parent isn't blue-eyed since Capri's sister (Ginger's aunt) is blue-eyed so I was hoping for some blue-eyed babies down the line.  If they were human, it could happen.

    Margaret, brown-eyed human parents can have blue-eyed children because the blue-eyed gene is recessive so both parents can have the gene and if the child inherits one from each parent, voila - blue eyes.  What is not likely is two blue-eyed parents having a brown-eyed child since neither normally carry the brown-eyed gene.  Then there is the whole issue of hazel eyes which I never did get any reliable info about.  I was so hoping it was the same with goats about blue eyes and I could keep hoping for a blue-eyed goat down the line since all three of my does have a relative with blue eyes (sister and aunt) and could be carrying a recessive blue-eyed gene.  Oh, well, even with no blue-eyed babies in the future, I will still love each and every one of them. :-)

    So, I guess when looking for good goat daddies, I won't consider eye color. <g>

  • Wow, you are serious aren't you. Yes, actually pretty much the way it works is that darker is more dominant rather it is eyes, hair or skin. And both my husband and I had maternal grandfathers with blue eyes. Weird, since I am from very, very dark Austrian (paternal)heritage and hubby has very strong American Indian lines. Go figure!

    So, I doubt I have anything here, from the way it sounds, that is going to throw polls or blue eyes. Guess that means the only flash I will have will be coats. That's cool. Not what is most important,  just cute and I should have very flashy colors anyway so it's all good.  I just want to find shows at a reasonable distance and learn to show. That isn't looking to promising at the moment.

  • The confusing thing is that genetics are different from one species to another! I don't really know anything about human genetics. If you and your husband don't have blue eyes, that probably means blue eyes in humans are recessive.

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