Moon spots

So the Velvet X Miyagi daughter that was born yesterday has some very pretty moonspots.  Velvet is solid black and Miyagi is buckskin with a white splotch but no moon spots that I was aware of.  If Velvet is solid black does that mean Miyagi has a moonspot hidden somewhere?

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  • Cool!

  • Margaret- never mind I am happy to report that her ear has fixed itself with no assistance from me. 

  • It' is not hard at all! Running late for a dr appointment will give you info on my return I would try it

  • Wonder how I'd got about splinting it?  Frankly I just maybe not have the time or energy to worry about it...she is not registerable anyway

     

    But it is trying to stand up so maybe I should help lol

  • Could have just been squished the wrong way in the uterus. You might could try splinting it, I don't know how it would work on an upright type ear, but it sure worked on my little does long hanging ear 2 weeks ago. It was folded in half like her mommas and I didn't want it to stick out to the side like her moms. I splinted it for 6 days and it is perfect now! I didn't know it said 4 days in the book, but it also said to do it when they were born before they were dry. I didn't know that til the next day so I went ahead and did it and after 6 days I took it off and it is fine now! Makes a big difference and it was so easy. I do believe it would work on yours if you do it right! Just thought I would mention it, in case you were interested, because she is so pretty!

    Juliana Goodwin said:

    Margaret- her one ear is normal like a nigerian, the other one was completely floppy at birth, now stands halfway up and still flops a bit at the end.  Don't know if it will make a full recovery or not :)  So the half floppy one sort of appears to stick straight out...don't know what went wrong there. 

  • He is a handsome fellow Patty! You know, it's funny, but this reminds me so much of the story I have told you guys about when I bought Quill and the circumstances! It fits so well here for any who may not know, I just have to re-brief!

    I found the most perfect beautiful, newborn buck for sale and immediately grabbed the phone to call about him. He had not been sold and I was ecstatic. I agreed to send a deposit the very next day! Later that evening I received a call and was told that the hubby was very upset because he did not want to sell him! I was devastated! I literally laid in my bed and cried! I just knew that I would never find another one that I would like that much!

    About 2 weeks later, while visiting the same site, low and behold there was the DADDY for sale! I called my son in Tennessee and asked if he would go pick him up and bring him to me. He knew as well as I did, that when you find a specimen you like, you go back to that DADDY to get it again! He didn't bother waiting a week or 2 to go, after I made the arrangements with the farm. He called me back a day or two later and told me to call her and tell her he was coming tomorrow night. I flipped!

    So on Friday night after he got off work he headed this way and picked him up! Less than 3 weeks after I laid heartbroken over my lost deal for a baby buck, I had his father, Quill, at my house 500 miles away. Thanks to my soldier boy! I now owned, not only a very gorgeous buck with a great background, but a very young (1YR.) old proven buck who already had about 20 beautiful kids on the ground. And I knew what he could throw! No chances to take with getting him to adulthood and proven, or hoping he would throw nice kids.

    Now a year later, I have just had my first kids and although they are not out of an ND momma, they are gorgeous just like DADDY! And there are little udders forming on ND does in his pen now! You reckon I am a little bit excited, waiting to see what comes next? You bet!

    BTW, 2 of my girls have a sire that is colored just like this one Patty! And one of them has been with Quill, so maybe I will get one like that! Wouldn't that be a hoot!

  • Yeah Margaret, I was going to try to explain what that site said, but I couldn't figure out how to say it.  I should have just kinked to it like you did. :)  Smart gal you are!

    The goat in the photo I've shared here (Gerle Ranch Benedict) is the grandfather of one of my bucks.  As far as I know (at least as of last year), he hasn't passed these lovely moonspots on the kids he's sired.  SO strange how this whole thing works.

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  • OK, guys maybe I am wrong, but I sure am having a hard time figuring this one out! This is worse than the polled and blue eyed situation, because at least they are obvious as to rather or not they exist! According to this site that was recently shared with us and I went back to, to investigate this! The moonspot gene is suppose to be like the other 2 and dominant meaning one parent has to have it but it says a moonspot can be hidden and as little as a few hairs! So I guess there are just a bunch of critters out there with a few odd colored unnoticeable hairs which are passing on moonspots! Blows my mind! I just can't get my head around this with as many goats have these that APPEAR to be free of them themselves! http://nigeriandwarfcolors.weebly.com/coat-patterns.html

    Margaret Langley said:

    I could always be wrong. but I feel 99.9% sure that they do not have to be on either parent, but they may need to carry a gene for them.

    I have noticed that it is not uncommon for people to say that a goat has "A" moonspot. I just chuckle to myself and wonder if it really does. I know that I have at least one who was listed that way when she was for sale. I don't know about that. I haven't fretted over her spot enough to be sure. I actually think it is a moonspot, but I really don't care. Whoopi, 1 spot, so what, I don't care!

    The point is that if you read the descriptions of them and look at them on goats who have lots of OBVIOUS MOONSPOTS, you begin to learn what they actually look like. And there are lots of goats with lots of spots that are not moonspots! One key factor in cluing you in on them is how many colors you see on the goat. If you see a goat that has hair that is at least 2 colors with a couple of dots that are a 3rd color. Those are going to be moonspots. If you see one like my little doe that is chocolate with one white spot. That would be very doubtful, that it would be a genuine moonspot. Hers does have the right shape and all. For all intents and purposes and genetically speaking she does have what it takes for it to be,but it doesn't excite me . I get excited over what anybody recognizes as moonspots. like my new MiniMeat Doeling and even the Buckling although his are kinda hidden! I hope I get some nice ones like that on my NDs.

  • Margaret- her one ear is normal like a nigerian, the other one was completely floppy at birth, now stands halfway up and still flops a bit at the end.  Don't know if it will make a full recovery or not :)  So the half floppy one sort of appears to stick straight out...don't know what went wrong there. 

  • Oh yea, has she got them! Wow! See that's what I mean. She really has them! She is really cute and I don't just mean her coloring. Her ZigZag is adorable too, but she looks like she is going to be a pretty nice looking little doe. I see a few features that I really like. I wish I could see her face more front on to see her ear set. Do her ears stick out to the side or do they stick up?

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