My goat birthed two beautiful babies, one is doing fine but the other cannot move. She was born only 3 hours ago. We have given her nutri-drench and 1/4 cc boSe, she looks like she is dying, what should I do next?
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I don't know of anything that is typically given for castration unless you're a vet. I do know someone who gave a Molly's pain med, which she discovered is mostly alcohol after she realized her kids were "drunk." The salve that Kare linked above is not something that would work for castration. It contains menthol and camphor, which work great for arthritis and muscle pains, but they're not going to help for a kid that was banded. If you're into homeopathy, arnica would be the remedy of choice. I have also heard of people using Rescue Remedy.
If you haven't already bought the bander, I'd suggest a Burdizzo. It's completely bloodless, there is no risk of tetanus, and you can't tell the kids have been castrated ten minutes later. With banding, it can vary from a kid being lethargic to one that is screaming and throwing himself down on the ground for a couple hours. Thankfully, you don't see the latter very often. Most just get really quiet and hide in a corner somewhere.
Deb & Kare,Thanks for your help. My daughter Tess posted during that horrible night and really appreciated your thoughts. We lost the little doe, but have a barn full of 13 very healthy kids, so overall kidding season went well. The 9 (yes 9!) bucklings all found excellent homes as pets. We are keeping 4 very pretty does to build our dairy herd. Congrats on your new book coming out. The cover is lovely and I will be ordering a copy when it comes out. One unrelated question, we are about to wether (elastrate) our bucks at 7-8 weeks and are looking for a mild painkiller to help them through those first hours. Is there anything that doesn't have to be injected? A kids liquid painkiller of some sort that some folks use?
Are they premature? They should be at least 2-3 pounds each. If she is seriously that small, just get as much in her as you can. If you don't have a scale, compare her to canned goods. Do you have a big can of pumpkin or tomatoes that weighs 18 ounces?
They are both the same size, she just came out without any control of limbs or head, but they are small and scrawny, maybe a pound. Wow, 8 oz of colostrum, that will be tough, I keep giving her little syringes full, but it takes a lot to add up to an oz. The good news is her brother is doing a better job nursing on his own. He was just bumping mom's udder and not latching ahold so I was worried we might be losing him too, but I keep running out to the barn and warming him up and he seems at least not to be losing any ground. He is good on his feet. 3 more does to freshen, hopefully they will go more like all the others in the past and not like yesterday!
Is she a lot smaller than the other one? Any idea what she weighs? Most need about 8 ounces of colostrum in the first 24 hours. It's great that she can hold up her head! She might pull through.
She's still hanging on. Lifts head but can't walk. This is our first unwell kid, so it is so sad! We fed her syringes of colostrum through the night, so she got about an ounce and a half in her. Not looking good, but we'll just see. I think we'll keep feeding her bits of milk with syringe today and keep our fingers crossed. We did dab a bit a Karo and molasses in her mouth too. Poor little dear sounds like a kitten!
Tess my daughter e mailed last night and I really appreciate you answering her! So kind.
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We got Banamine from our vet and it made elastration much better for them. I do plan to try the Burdizzo next season.
Kare at Chaverah Farm said:
I don't know of anything that is typically given for castration unless you're a vet. I do know someone who gave a Molly's pain med, which she discovered is mostly alcohol after she realized her kids were "drunk." The salve that Kare linked above is not something that would work for castration. It contains menthol and camphor, which work great for arthritis and muscle pains, but they're not going to help for a kid that was banded. If you're into homeopathy, arnica would be the remedy of choice. I have also heard of people using Rescue Remedy.
If you haven't already bought the bander, I'd suggest a Burdizzo. It's completely bloodless, there is no risk of tetanus, and you can't tell the kids have been castrated ten minutes later. With banding, it can vary from a kid being lethargic to one that is screaming and throwing himself down on the ground for a couple hours. Thankfully, you don't see the latter very often. Most just get really quiet and hide in a corner somewhere.
I'm so sorry for your loss, but so glad you have all those healthy kids!
I have heard the Banamine is a good painkiller, but I don't know if it's oral or injected. Also, Molly at Fiasco Farm sells an herbal salve that is a pain killer, but I've never tried it. Here is the link: http://www.fiascofarm.com/herbs/mollysherbals.php/products/aches-n-...
She's still hanging on. Lifts head but can't walk. This is our first unwell kid, so it is so sad! We fed her syringes of colostrum through the night, so she got about an ounce and a half in her. Not looking good, but we'll just see. I think we'll keep feeding her bits of milk with syringe today and keep our fingers crossed. We did dab a bit a Karo and molasses in her mouth too. Poor little dear sounds like a kitten!
Tess my daughter e mailed last night and I really appreciate you answering her! So kind.
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