DARN IT!! I think the doe I've been planning on kids from in JUNE is in HEAT! She's not looking very pregnant to me, and today she's walking around with her tail flagging, squatting a lot (to pee) and being really vocal. She's not usually this vocal. SOOOO disappointed...

 

 

UPDATE 6/3:

Well it never looked like she went into heat again... but she's also not carrying more than one kid if she's pregnant. I've been feeling her up like she's a sack of potatoes and I'm trying to feel out the rotten one... lol Today, while I was feeling around and BEGGING her to be pregnant and due to kid any day, I think I felt a KID!!

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  • She wasn't pregnant from the breeding here in this conversation, but she has kidded twice for me now, and I have one of her doelings that will be bred this year! :)

  • Im a little late following this discussion, but did your goat ever have kids? 

  • My experience is that does will go into full heat and accept breeding while pregnant. My doe had been in the same area with 2 large male kids, when they were 7 weeks old they started mounting the goats. I went ahead and removed them and figured it was weaning time,  and into the male pen they went. Now, everything I have read says remove males at 8 weeks old. Well 3 months later I got my prize buck and one of the does that one of those 7 week old bucks mounted went into heat. So put the doe with the buck and he bred her a number of times. But 2 months later I come out one morning to find a single doeling kid, with that Doe. I figured she was due in 8 weeks to the male that she was bred to intentionally.  

    I have also had a doe not sack up until less than 24 hours before kidding, so sacking up weeks ahead of time isn't true for all of them. 

    Worse yet, I had a female doe who went into heat, she was only around young kids her age. At 7 1/2 weeks I removed all the male kids to make sure they couldn't breed anyone. This little doe acted starved all the time, then she started getting bigger. It turned that she had been bred around 6-7 weeks old and it took. She was  bred by a male of the same age. She had a brother and another male that was her age. So she kidded at slightly less than 7 months old.  The saddest thing was I didn't have help and had to run up to the house and by the time I got back I had to pull a dead kid. 

    Sometimes when the goats go into a heat I wonder if the chemical causes all does to cycle a heat, even if it is false and they are already pregnant. Because I have had another doe go into full heat at 2 or 3 months pregnant, so i think she isn't bred and have her bred back again, and then she kids with the first breeding time schedule. 

    That is some of my experience in this area. Good luck. I wish we could use a human pregnancy test on goats, it would make all of our lives easier.  But of course, it isn't the same checmicals as humans so it wont work.

  • Yes. One time breeding. I left her there, but she was taken out of the pen once my friend saw them breed. She doesn't have an udder. I've seen udders, and she's holding out. It's still the size it has been the whole time. I can SEE it, but it's not filling out. No softening around her tail yet either. I know how all that feels, because I've been lucky enough to get some good feels at various stages on my friend's goats. Didn't feel anything where I did yesterday. It's too dark for photos right now. I'll have to wait. I have her due date from a 150 day calendar I think. So the due date is for day 150 as far as I know. At this point, I just have to wait and see. The only real sign that I can see based on other goats I have seen and know were pregnant, is that she's moving more slowly and taking her time laying down and getting up...
  • What I meant about the due date was -- was she bred a second or third time three weeks or six weeks later? I didn't think you re-bred her because you did a driveway breeding, right? If she has a tiny handful of an udder, could she be due in three weeks? If she's a third freshener and she's pregnant, she should have a fairly visible udder by day 145 at the latest. When you say she's due in four days, do you mean she's at day 141? She could still be nine or ten days away. Could you post pictures?

    Rachel Whetzel said:
    Not a lot of udder happening, but she didn't have much of one last time either, and only had one kid. The due date is solid as far as when she was bred.
  • Not a lot of udder happening, but she didn't have much of one last time either, and only had one kid. The due date is solid as far as when she was bred.
  • If she's due in four days, she should have an udder. I know what you mean about feeling up your does. Been there! It can be really tough to judge by feeling them, but by now there should definitely be an udder. This is the only possible due date? One thing that just popped into my head -- sometimes when an animal is close to kidding (rarely, but we've seen it) other animals will try to mount them and treat them like they're in heat. I'm thinking there is some kind of hormone flux that may seem like heat, even to other animals.

    Rachel Whetzel said:

    Well it never looked like she went into heat again... but she's also not carrying more than one kid if she's pregnant. I've been feeling her up like she's a sack of potatoes and I'm trying to feel out the rotten one... lol Today, while I was feeling around and BEGGING her to be pregnant and due to kid any day, I think I felt a KID!!

     

    Deb, I thought I'd ask about what to feel for and what I felt. Just a bit above her pelvic area, and just under her spine, there was a lump about the size of a newborn kid. (she's due in 4 days if she's pregnant.) I felt the other side of her in the same spot, and I could feel the lump there. When I pushed on the side it was favoring, I could feel it move to the other side I was pushing toward. Could it have been a kid? From which angle to you judge "right side"? This was nearly in the middle... and usually her belly is always pliable. I've never felt any sort of hardness like this before. To my knowledge, she's only ever had one kid at a time, and this is her third kidding.

  • Well it never looked like she went into heat again... but she's also not carrying more than one kid if she's pregnant. I've been feeling her up like she's a sack of potatoes and I'm trying to feel out the rotten one... lol Today, while I was feeling around and BEGGING her to be pregnant and due to kid any day, I think I felt a KID!!

     

    Deb, I thought I'd ask about what to feel for and what I felt. Just a bit above her pelvic area, and just under her spine, there was a lump about the size of a newborn kid. (she's due in 4 days if she's pregnant.) I felt the other side of her in the same spot, and I could feel the lump there. When I pushed on the side it was favoring, I could feel it move to the other side I was pushing toward. Could it have been a kid? From which angle to you judge "right side"? This was nearly in the middle... and usually her belly is always pliable. I've never felt any sort of hardness like this before. To my knowledge, she's only ever had one kid at a time, and this is her third kidding.

  • Boy, I guess I have a lot to learn. I won't be breeding for a while. But it sure sounds like there's a lot to learn. I'll just keep reading your post. I find them very informative. Thanks .
  • yeah, you saw on my other post how this is driving me craaaaazy!! lol I have the day I thought she was back in heat written on my calendar. I'm going to be watching her to see how much in between what "would" be a cycle is "normal" behavior so that when she "would" be in heat again, I'll know what is and isn't just her being preggo. Also hoping that she'll start showing more. Next week she'll be at the 5 weeks to go mark, so she should only be getting bigger from here on out. Also have copper bolus on order, and getting my kidding kit in order.
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