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Attack dog...suggestions?

Posted by Adrienne on January 27, 2011 at 11:01am in Goats 101

I was not sure where to post this one... you can move it to a more appropriate section if needed.

 

I have reason  to believe the big black dog that has been jumping my fence in the afternoons attacked my rooster, who is now in critical condition, but stable and no longer bleeding.  I have been keeping the goats on the porch at night and whenever I have to go somewhere in case they kid while I am gone. My concern is that if  he can jump my yard fence he can jump the cattle panel pens. If this dog attacks my goats...OMG... Does anyone have any ideas of any further precautionary measures I could take for the goats? I am keeping the chickens locked up until they catch the dog.

If despite the precautionary measures this dog does attack and injure or kill one or more of my goats...were you in this position what would you ask of the owner of the dog?

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  • Adrienne January 31, 2011 at 11:11am
    Thankfully he didn't have any serious external injuries. I was most worried about any internal injuries because when I found him and for several hours afterwords he was bleeding from the mouth. I gave him the max dose for two days and half dose the third day. I gave wally water with electrolyte powder via syringe for 3 days. I still go in and give him some at night because hes still not drinking from the regular waterer. Once I catch him doing that or eating the regular pellets I won't worry so much. As soon as his tail is up and he can run better I will put him back out with the girls.

    Deborah Niemann-Boehle said:
    Yay! So glad to hear he's doing better. I wouldn't bother with more penicillin. I doubt he has an infection. Honestly, the only thing I've ever done with chickens that got injured is to squirt hydrogen peroxide on their wounds, and they all recovered. I even nursed a turkey gobbler back from near death with goat milk, alfalfa sprouts, and boiled egg yolks, all of which I had to hand feed. I gave him the goat milk by dripping it down his throat with a syringe.

    Adrienne said:

    I havent seen the dog since that day, and I havent heard from animal control so I am wondering if it has been caught

    Wally is doing better. He can stand and walk but he looks drunk... There was some concern over infection because it sounded as though he had fluid in his lungs, but that has since passed and he is breathing fine...its possible that one nostril is partially blocked but he is still breathing from his nose. He is holding his neck up more and eating most of his baby bird formula at each feeding. I think it still hurts for him to stretch his neck out, and he won't take his regular food.  I don't know if I should do another round of Penicillin in  a few more days or not...no one has been able to advise, so I will just be seeing how he does.

  • Deborah Niemann-Boehle January 31, 2011 at 11:03am
    Yay! So glad to hear he's doing better. I wouldn't bother with more penicillin. I doubt he has an infection. Honestly, the only thing I've ever done with chickens that got injured is to squirt hydrogen peroxide on their wounds, and they all recovered. I even nursed a turkey gobbler back from near death with goat milk, alfalfa sprouts, and boiled egg yolks, all of which I had to hand feed. I gave him the goat milk by dripping it down his throat with a syringe.

    Adrienne said:

    I havent seen the dog since that day, and I havent heard from animal control so I am wondering if it has been caught

    Wally is doing better. He can stand and walk but he looks drunk... There was some concern over infection because it sounded as though he had fluid in his lungs, but that has since passed and he is breathing fine...its possible that one nostril is partially blocked but he is still breathing from his nose. He is holding his neck up more and eating most of his baby bird formula at each feeding. I think it still hurts for him to stretch his neck out, and he won't take his regular food.  I don't know if I should do another round of Penicillin in  a few more days or not...no one has been able to advise, so I will just be seeing how he does.

  • Adrienne January 31, 2011 at 11:01am
    and no kids yet even though I wasnt expecting Indiana to make it past day 145 we are at day 147 and she has been pawing, possessive of food, up and down all night long, talking more, more friendly to us, and I don't feel any ligaments on her, but they could just be fooling me. She hasn't bagged. I suppose she's waiting for me to go back to work so  I can miss the whole thing. Isabel is day 145 today, Her tail head is a bit mushy but I can still feel ligaments, and she hasn't bagged but she does have a nice start to the udder. She has been pawing too, but is otherwise her same old self.
  • Adrienne January 31, 2011 at 10:54am

    I havent seen the dog since that day, and I havent heard from animal control so I am wondering if it has been caught

    Wally is doing better. He can stand and walk but he looks drunk... There was some concern over infection because it sounded as though he had fluid in his lungs, but that has since passed and he is breathing fine...its possible that one nostril is partially blocked but he is still breathing from his nose. He is holding his neck up more and eating most of his baby bird formula at each feeding. I think it still hurts for him to stretch his neck out, and he won't take his regular food.  I don't know if I should do another round of Penicillin in  a few more days or not...no one has been able to advise, so I will just be seeing how he does.

  • Kare January 31, 2011 at 10:32am
    You all are so nice. =)  I think if a dog killed one of my goats, the dog would mysteriously disappear and I wouldn't even contact the owner.  If it hurt my chickens, I would shoot it to injure, but not kill the first time.  However, I live in a state that allows and encourages that.  Livestock is valued here more than pets...
  • Julie Quilligan January 29, 2011 at 7:05am
    Our neighbor's dogs destroyed our entire flock of chickens a few years back.  Now they're penned up with two strands of hot wire in front of the chicken wire.  That's worked really well.  Our goats are all in the barn, which is closed up at night with our GS's kennel placed right outside the barn door.  She barks if dogs or coyotes come around at night.  There is just no way we could get away with anything besides total confinement for our livestock and poultry here.  We didn't ask that our neighbors replace the chickens, but if their dog attacked one of our goats we'd definitely ask for reimbursement for vet care and/or replacement cost.  Best of luck!
  • Deborah Niemann-Boehle January 27, 2011 at 5:49pm
    I don't know what else to tell you, other than good luck! I know someone in Oklahoma who recently had a finished champion killed by a neighbor's dog. Very sad!
  • Rachel Whetzel at MigMog Acres January 27, 2011 at 1:48pm
    GOOD! Better for you AND the dog if it doesn't have owners... and if it does, then they need to be held accountable.
  • Adrienne January 27, 2011 at 12:19pm

    I talked with an Animal Control officer this morning. She said that while she has had numerous reports for strays in our area and been able to catch most of them this one is one she has not been able to get. No one knows so far who the owner of the dog is, and he runs so much its hard for anyone to get an id on him anyway. She said so far no one has been willing to put a deposit down or willing to put a trap on their property to catch this dog, but I am going to do it. They don't cash the deposit check on the trap unless it is stolen or damaged, and I'm going to lock it to the fence... we'll see if  we can get him. If they find the owner they will charge him fines out the wazoo...

     

    Wally is drinking his vitamin electrolyte enhanced water pretty well. I heard about some baby bird formula someone had fed their injured roo...I am going to see about getting him some of that to start on and work him up to watered down crumbles and on up to the full pellets.
    Rachel Whetzel said:

    WOW!! No fun at ALL. Does the dog have an owner? If you know who the owner is, I would write a letter and keep a copy for yourself with the date you deliver it. OR at the very least, mark your calendar with the dates in case this gets ugly. You need to have a record of any contact you've made with them. Written record is best.

     

    That said, the dog itself is probably not "aggressive" with people, so keep that in mind when you're talking with the owners. I have a dog that nearly killed my rooster, and it was because he likes to run up to the chickens, and my rooster didn't think that was funny. (he was new, and didn't know my dog wasn't trying to hurt the chickens) so the Rooster stood ground for the hens, and the dog fought back because the rooster got aggressive with him. Now they are great friends, and doesn't worry when the dog comes running up to the flock to see everyone. It may be that this dog isn't trying for a snack as much as a play date. Not that that doesn't make him a threat to your flocks and herd. I'm just saying, if you talk to the owners, it might be better if they understand that even play can end up in death for your animals.

  • Rachel Whetzel at MigMog Acres January 27, 2011 at 11:12am

    WOW!! No fun at ALL. Does the dog have an owner? If you know who the owner is, I would write a letter and keep a copy for yourself with the date you deliver it. OR at the very least, mark your calendar with the dates in case this gets ugly. You need to have a record of any contact you've made with them. Written record is best.

     

    That said, the dog itself is probably not "aggressive" with people, so keep that in mind when you're talking with the owners. I have a dog that nearly killed my rooster, and it was because he likes to run up to the chickens, and my rooster didn't think that was funny. (he was new, and didn't know my dog wasn't trying to hurt the chickens) so the Rooster stood ground for the hens, and the dog fought back because the rooster got aggressive with him. Now they are great friends, and doesn't worry when the dog comes running up to the flock to see everyone. It may be that this dog isn't trying for a snack as much as a play date. Not that that doesn't make him a threat to your flocks and herd. I'm just saying, if you talk to the owners, it might be better if they understand that even play can end up in death for your animals.

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