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Ammonium chloride & Does...

Posted by Juliana Goodwin on May 26, 2011 at 8:44am in Goats 101

I am thinking we will probably feed some grain to our buckling- not to the wether and probably not the doe.  

Could I offer the ammonium chloride free choice in their quarters, would if be okay if the doe ate some?

 

Do I need to find away to feed it only to the males?

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  • Deborah Niemann-Boehle June 5, 2012 at 11:22am

    How old are the goats? What were they being fed at their previous home? Was this wether related to the one with a UT problem? I'm assuming you meant stones, not an infection when you wrote UTI?

    Liz Barnes said:

    Hi!

    New goat owner here and have a few questions regarding grain. I have two girls and a wether. I purchased a bale of hay from the breeder and they have that free choice along with the grass hay that I will be feeding them.

    The breeder was giving them a sweet feed including the wether, along with the alfalfa hay.The other wether I was going to buy ended up with a UTI and had surgery, not sure if he is going to pull through.

    My question is can I start them on Purina goat chow and if so how much? Do I need to start gradually like with horses? Do I need to buy a bag of what they were eating and mix?

    I ordered minerals,etc from Hoeggers and should be here tomorrow.

    Thanks in advance I am learning so much and love my kids!

    Liz

  • Liz Barnes June 4, 2012 at 10:26am

    Hi!

    New goat owner here and have a few questions regarding grain. I have two girls and a wether. I purchased a bale of hay from the breeder and they have that free choice along with the grass hay that I will be feeding them.

    The breeder was giving them a sweet feed including the wether, along with the alfalfa hay.The other wether I was going to buy ended up with a UTI and had surgery, not sure if he is going to pull through.

    My question is can I start them on Purina goat chow and if so how much? Do I need to start gradually like with horses? Do I need to buy a bag of what they were eating and mix?

    I ordered minerals,etc from Hoeggers and should be here tomorrow.

    Thanks in advance I am learning so much and love my kids!

    Liz

  • Deborah Niemann-Boehle May 29, 2011 at 3:27pm
    Wethers get 1/4 cups twice a day (1/2 cup total per day). Breeding bucks and does get 1/2 cup twice a day (1 cup total per day), and I stop giving it to them around six months.

    Kare at Chaverah Farm said:
    Deborah, how much grain do you give to the boys under 6 months?  how much for young does and when do you stop giving it to them?  I'm not giving it to anyone except the doe in milk.
  • Kare May 29, 2011 at 10:37am
    Deborah, how much grain do you give to the boys under 6 months?  how much for young does and when do you stop giving it to them?  I'm not giving it to anyone except the doe in milk. 
  • Deborah Niemann-Boehle May 27, 2011 at 4:52pm
    Personally I stop giving grain to the boys around six months. They've done the majority of their growing by then. As for the AC, I've wondered that myself, but have no info on whether it's harmful, so I don't put it anywhere the does can get to it simply because I've never seen it recommended for anything with does.
  • Rachel Whetzel at MigMog Acres May 27, 2011 at 2:14am
    You do give grain when they are young... but I can't remember how old you cut the boys off. And then when the girls are older, they won't need grain unless they are in their last stages of pregnancy, or are nursing/milking.
  • Juliana Goodwin May 26, 2011 at 6:58pm

    Okay...

     

    Maybe you guys can all chime in on the whole urinary calculi thing.  

     

    Babies/youngsters are less susceptible?  

     

    I was planning to offer Sweetlix mineral free choice to them, which has the best calcium to phos. ratio...

     

    Am turning down any hay w/ alfalfa in it at this time since males and female will be eating together and I don't want the boys to have that.  

     

    All feeding advice appreciated.  Should I just not feed any grain period?  (though I just ordered a horribly expensive bag of organic feed from a faraway land lol)

     

     

  • Rachel Whetzel at MigMog Acres May 26, 2011 at 5:51pm

    Buckling or wether, from what I understand it doesn't matter if they are altered or not. It's the male urinary system that can't take the grain and can cause issues, not the reproductive system.

    So I'd vote no grain after they are old enough. (I can't remember how old "old enough" is...)

    As to your Q about if AC will hurt your doe, I don't think that it will. Don't quote me on that.

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