Posted by Adrienne on October 19, 2010 at 6:15pm in Health
I know I cannot use white wormers on pregnant does, can I use the pellet wormer? What is it called, and How much? Do I just mix that with the regular feed? or give it instead of the regular feed? If I can't use the pellets, what are my choices? I just looked at their eyelids as they met me at the car today, and they are pretty pale so I will drive to MS tomorrow since my regular feed store is closed.,, Thanks for your help!
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I tried the honey and a few other things to no avail. She does eat a little, but doesn' t like it enough to gobble it down I guess. I will give it one more try tonight, and if she doesn't finish it I will go back to the MS feed store and get the ivomec paste stuff. Is there something I should be aware of with that? It seems odd that the feed store in Slidell would have it for $19.99 and one in MS would have it for $6.00. I must be missing something....
my goats love nature valley granola bars!! the oat and honey/peanut butter - when I gave them COWP I crunched a granola bar up drizzled a little molasses on it put the copper particules on top and kind of smooshed it into a ball, sort of. The really love those granola bars - try that :) add a little cracked corn in that - they may stand on their heads.
Adrienne said:
I tried corn chips mixed in with Isabel alone, and then I tried it with Indiana in there too....and well... Indiana likes it. LOL Tomorrow I will try separating them so that they can be together without...being together. I will see how that works with her and no hay... If that doesn't work I will try putting something else on it. I will see if their other mommy knows what they find irresistible...Maybe honey?
Deborah Niemann-Boehle said:
That is the down side to using the pellet dewormer. Most goats like it, but not all of them. If she is in a stall where she doesn't have access to pasture, I'd take away her hay so that the only thing she has to eat are the pellets. The other option is to let your other doe in. Sometimes they eat more when there's competition. If they have some kind of snack they like, maybe put a tiny bit of that on it to get her to eat more. It's tough when they don't like it. When we first used that one, I got the bright idea to give it to them when they're on the milk stand -- bad idea! Some of them were really pitching a fit!
Adrienne said:
I asked for the invomec stuff first, but they did not have that, so I got a few pounds of the pellet wormer ( very nice that I did not have to buy the whole bag!), but I could not get her to eat much of it. according to the directions she is supposed to eat about .5 lbs. and then repeat in two weeks. I tried putting some of her regular food with it, and that worked for about 4 bites. Any ideas on what I can do to get her to eat it?
I tried corn chips mixed in with Isabel alone, and then I tried it with Indiana in there too....and well... Indiana likes it. LOL Tomorrow I will try separating them so that they can be together without...being together. I will see how that works with her and no hay... If that doesn't work I will try putting something else on it. I will see if their other mommy knows what they find irresistible...Maybe honey?
Deborah Niemann-Boehle said:
That is the down side to using the pellet dewormer. Most goats like it, but not all of them. If she is in a stall where she doesn't have access to pasture, I'd take away her hay so that the only thing she has to eat are the pellets. The other option is to let your other doe in. Sometimes they eat more when there's competition. If they have some kind of snack they like, maybe put a tiny bit of that on it to get her to eat more. It's tough when they don't like it. When we first used that one, I got the bright idea to give it to them when they're on the milk stand -- bad idea! Some of them were really pitching a fit!
Adrienne said:
I asked for the invomec stuff first, but they did not have that, so I got a few pounds of the pellet wormer ( very nice that I did not have to buy the whole bag!), but I could not get her to eat much of it. according to the directions she is supposed to eat about .5 lbs. and then repeat in two weeks. I tried putting some of her regular food with it, and that worked for about 4 bites. Any ideas on what I can do to get her to eat it?
That is the down side to using the pellet dewormer. Most goats like it, but not all of them. If she is in a stall where she doesn't have access to pasture, I'd take away her hay so that the only thing she has to eat are the pellets. The other option is to let your other doe in. Sometimes they eat more when there's competition. If they have some kind of snack they like, maybe put a tiny bit of that on it to get her to eat more. It's tough when they don't like it. When we first used that one, I got the bright idea to give it to them when they're on the milk stand -- bad idea! Some of them were really pitching a fit!
Adrienne said:
I asked for the invomec stuff first, but they did not have that, so I got a few pounds of the pellet wormer ( very nice that I did not have to buy the whole bag!), but I could not get her to eat much of it. according to the directions she is supposed to eat about .5 lbs. and then repeat in two weeks. I tried putting some of her regular food with it, and that worked for about 4 bites. Any ideas on what I can do to get her to eat it?
I asked for the invomec stuff first, but they did not have that, so I got a few pounds of the pellet wormer ( very nice that I did not have to buy the whole bag!), but I could not get her to eat much of it. according to the directions she is supposed to eat about .5 lbs. and then repeat in two weeks. I tried putting some of her regular food with it, and that worked for about 4 bites. Any ideas on what I can do to get her to eat it?
Ivermectin is fine for pregnant does, either oral or pour-on, although I've found that the pour-on only works well for lice.
Melissa Johnson said:
Deborah, what about Ivermectin (pour on)?
Deborah Niemann-Boehle said:
Valbazen is the only one you can't use on pregnant does. Although Safeguard is in the same class, it is okay for pregnant does. The pelleted dewormer is also okay -- it's morantel tartrate. You give quite a bit, so it depends on how much your does eat, as far as whether or not you want to mix it with their feed, because you want them to eat it all. You might start by offering it plain, and if they don't eat it, toss in a little of their regular feed to get them started.
Valbazen is the only one you can't use on pregnant does. Although Safeguard is in the same class, it is okay for pregnant does. The pelleted dewormer is also okay -- it's morantel tartrate. You give quite a bit, so it depends on how much your does eat, as far as whether or not you want to mix it with their feed, because you want them to eat it all. You might start by offering it plain, and if they don't eat it, toss in a little of their regular feed to get them started.
Valbazen is the only one you can't use on pregnant does. Although Safeguard is in the same class, it is okay for pregnant does. The pelleted dewormer is also okay -- it's morantel tartrate. You give quite a bit, so it depends on how much your does eat, as far as whether or not you want to mix it with their feed, because you want them to eat it all. You might start by offering it plain, and if they don't eat it, toss in a little of their regular feed to get them started.
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