Okay, here we go again. Tally, who will be ten in January, is scouring again. This has been going off and on for about 4 months. She'll scour for a week and then be fine for a while and then get all loose dog poop for a few days and then be fine and then it'll be like pudding for a couple days and then go back to normal. It's maddening!
So this time she looks like she is thinning out and bonier and her coat is rougher and reddish. I dosed with COWP in August and usually dose again in February. I use Molly's Herbal wormer and I do not vaccinate. She has never been bred (tested positive for a neurological disorder that will kill upon birthing--it killed her mother). She has pale inside eyelids but is acting normal, eating and drinking, pissed off about being in the stall by herself even though there is nothing separating her from the others but a cattle panel, and she is the only one scouring. I currently have my doeling that was born in April and another pregnant doe but they seem fine. My other two does are at the breeder.
I am giving her a three day wormwood treatment (today is day two) and probios powder, loose minerals, baking soda and hay only.
What do I do now? This morning it was more liquidy and it is green. It doesn't smell foul (any more than normal lol) but is starting to cake on her vulva and tail now. My vet is almost two hours away and with my current work schedule it will be at least a week before I can even think of getting her there. What can I give her? We have a Tractor Supply right down the road so I am limited to what they carry or what I can get online possibly until I can try to get her to the vet.
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She had some berries in the stall this morning but she had quite a bit of diarrhea yesterday. She dang near knocked me over to get at a bucket of warm water I had brought out to her. She drank and drank, poor thing. She dove right into her hay too and once we get a warmer day I plan on washing her and letting her back with everyone else and then doing a massive bedding clean out. She seems so much better already!
Thank you so much Deborah, you are a godsend!!! I hope you have a wonderful holiday and I'll let you know how Tally is doing in the coming weeks. I gave her the equine safeguard at the 250lb dosage cause she didn't quite get all of it down so I figured a little extra would be okay to compensate for what she got all over her face lol. Should I redose her in several weeks if she still shows symptoms or to catch a new cycle of worms that may be developing still?
Thanks Deborah, for all your great info. and all you do to help all of us. This forum is probably the number one reason I still own goats. :) I"d have been very overwhelmed without this site.
As long as the label says its 10% fenbendazole, and it says 2.3 cc per 100 pounds, you can double the dosage.
Sharon Johnson said:
So what should the actual dosage be to worm a ND for all the worms including the Meningeal? If they change the label on the tube to the correct amount I don't want to give an overdose. Thanks.
Sounds like you have the horse dewormer. One tube of that is meant for a 1500 pound horse, so even if you do double the dosage for a goat, you would not give more than about 1/10 of a tube. When people use the horse dewormer, they usually just double the goat's weight and dial up the dispenser to that number. So, if your goat weighs 60 pounds, you would dial it up to 120.
Lori Adams said:
So I am at tsc right now. I have the safeguard 25g paste 10% tube. So for my nigi do I give her two tubes all at once?
If you have Safeguard for goats, you just double what is on the label. They have it all broken down to 25 pounds and other smaller weights. It is 2.3 ml per 100 pounds on the label, but should be 4.6 pounds. You only give it once.
Sharon, you don't need to worry about the meningeal worm. I knew that Patty had read my posts about that, which was why I mentioned it. Meningeal worm is in the spinal column and brain, and it is VERY rare in goats because they are highly resistant to it. Most people will never see a case of it in their goats, and if you do, you will probably be rushing the goat to the vet because the goat will be paralyzed or have other serious neurological symptoms. Using a dewormer is only one part of a huge drug regimen required to save a goat, and then recovery is only seen in 20%. I've deleted the meningeal worm dosage from my previous response so as not to confuse this issue with your typical digestive tract parasites.
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So glad to hear it!
You're welcome! If you've never used Safeguard before, you shouldn't have any resistance issues, so one dose should do it for her.
Thank you thank you thank you!!!
Thanks Deborah, for all your great info. and all you do to help all of us. This forum is probably the number one reason I still own goats. :) I"d have been very overwhelmed without this site.
As long as the label says its 10% fenbendazole, and it says 2.3 cc per 100 pounds, you can double the dosage.
Sharon Johnson said:
Sounds like you have the horse dewormer. One tube of that is meant for a 1500 pound horse, so even if you do double the dosage for a goat, you would not give more than about 1/10 of a tube. When people use the horse dewormer, they usually just double the goat's weight and dial up the dispenser to that number. So, if your goat weighs 60 pounds, you would dial it up to 120.
Lori Adams said:
If you have Safeguard for goats, you just double what is on the label. They have it all broken down to 25 pounds and other smaller weights. It is 2.3 ml per 100 pounds on the label, but should be 4.6 pounds. You only give it once.
Sharon, you don't need to worry about the meningeal worm. I knew that Patty had read my posts about that, which was why I mentioned it. Meningeal worm is in the spinal column and brain, and it is VERY rare in goats because they are highly resistant to it. Most people will never see a case of it in their goats, and if you do, you will probably be rushing the goat to the vet because the goat will be paralyzed or have other serious neurological symptoms. Using a dewormer is only one part of a huge drug regimen required to save a goat, and then recovery is only seen in 20%. I've deleted the meningeal worm dosage from my previous response so as not to confuse this issue with your typical digestive tract parasites.
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