Milking records

Could someone explain milking records?  How do you measure #'s of milk and how is butterfat measured?  I would think it would be good to know. 

 

If you do keep milking records - how is that documented and how do you obtain stars and letters. and what do they represent?

 

There is A LOT to know about goats :)  thanks!

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  • Yes, the milk tester is paid, but you can do Owner-Sampler, and you would only need to pay a milk tester to come out for one test all year. You can get the rules from AGS or ADGA on their websites.

  • Ugh...not cleaning udders?  I've noticed that my goats don't seem to have any qualms about lying down on their own "goat pebbles", let alone the dust and grime that build up in a day.  We live in an area with a lot of high-density dairies, and it's pretty gross.

    Do you pay the person who comes out to measure the milk?  Earning milking stars would be really nice, but with only one doe in milk it seems like a waste of their time to come sit in my back yard all day.  (I realize that my grade goats can't get stars.)

  • We have wild onions here, and it doesn't do anything to the milk. To change the flavor of the milk, I think they would have to eat a huge amount. If you consider how much they eat in a day, the percentage of any single thing is pretty small. I use herbs medicinally quite a bit, and I haven't even noticed them changing the milk, although in that case, I do give them on the milkstand, so they have 12 hours to go through their system.

    Kimberly Martin said:

    Deborah:

     

    Thank you so much for the knowledge! I haven't started milking yet, but found a new concern. Our farm is still getting into shape, and this region has a fair amount of wild ramps and onion grass (a variety of chives). Of course, it is a favorite to the does when browsing. I presume this will flavor the milk, so wonder how long something like that might stay in their system. The new babies next month may not like onion flavored juice, and I'm pretty sure I won't either! ;) So, I need to know when to start keeping  them away from that particular "treat".

  • Interesting Deborah!  I had been telling my family I Thought the goats  milk from the store tasted funny because they might keep their does too close to their bucks or they mix warm milk in with cold milk or it doesn't get cold fast enough or any combination of those...no idea they didn't clean udders... I thought everyone did that... but I guess not! I use a pea size dot of anti-bacterial soap when cleaning off the udders since the pens tend to get moved about once a week.

    Deborah Niemann-Boehle said:
    LOL on the crackers! Goats learn fast!

    You have to send your milk to a lab to be tested for butterfat and protein.

    A feed with 16% protein is good for milk production. A lot of people swear by black-oil sunflower seeds to increase butterfat, and you can add me to that list. :)

    We make all kinds of cheese -- chevre, both plain and with a variety of herbs, as well as gouda, parmesan, cheddar, mozzarella, gjetost, buttermilk, yogurt, riccota, queso blanco, brie. To avoid goaty flavor, you need to clean the udder before milking (we just use a wet washcloth) and put a few squirts of milk into another bucket or cup before starting to milk. You're doing that to clean out the end of the teat. When I was talking to my vet about this one day, she said that a lot of commercial dairies don't clean udders before milking, which makes me even happier that we're making our own dairy products. Since they pasteurize the milk, they don't worry about germs. :(

    Melissa Johnson said:
    I love that - fences are merely a suggestion. perfect - they had been pushing "by rubbing against" the gate in another pen (home) and meeting me at my back door - they remembered when they get to the back door - they get a Ritz cracker to go back the other way - now who's trained.

    how do you measure your butterfat readings (I'm assuming yourself)? Iam just feeding payback 16% protein and an alfalfa/grass mix. that's it. So will I need to supplement that when they are freshened? Do you make cheese plain - or do you add herbs to yours? I have only had it from the grocery store and it was goatie - I didnt care for that. Have a great week :)
  • Deborah:

     

    Thank you so much for the knowledge! I haven't started milking yet, but found a new concern. Our farm is still getting into shape, and this region has a fair amount of wild ramps and onion grass (a variety of chives). Of course, it is a favorite to the does when browsing. I presume this will flavor the milk, so wonder how long something like that might stay in their system. The new babies next month may not like onion flavored juice, and I'm pretty sure I won't either! ;) So, I need to know when to start keeping  them away from that particular "treat".

  • LOL on the crackers! Goats learn fast!

    You have to send your milk to a lab to be tested for butterfat and protein.

    A feed with 16% protein is good for milk production. A lot of people swear by black-oil sunflower seeds to increase butterfat, and you can add me to that list. :)

    We make all kinds of cheese -- chevre, both plain and with a variety of herbs, as well as gouda, parmesan, cheddar, mozzarella, gjetost, buttermilk, yogurt, riccota, queso blanco, brie. To avoid goaty flavor, you need to clean the udder before milking (we just use a wet washcloth) and put a few squirts of milk into another bucket or cup before starting to milk. You're doing that to clean out the end of the teat. When I was talking to my vet about this one day, she said that a lot of commercial dairies don't clean udders before milking, which makes me even happier that we're making our own dairy products. Since they pasteurize the milk, they don't worry about germs. :(

    Melissa Johnson said:
    I love that - fences are merely a suggestion. perfect - they had been pushing "by rubbing against" the gate in another pen (home) and meeting me at my back door - they remembered when they get to the back door - they get a Ritz cracker to go back the other way - now who's trained.

    how do you measure your butterfat readings (I'm assuming yourself)? Iam just feeding payback 16% protein and an alfalfa/grass mix. that's it. So will I need to supplement that when they are freshened? Do you make cheese plain - or do you add herbs to yours? I have only had it from the grocery store and it was goatie - I didnt care for that. Have a great week :)
  • I am intrigued by the milking production. I have looked at the pics of the herd that my goats came from and have looked at others on the net and at the fair. In general, no udders compare to the herd pics I saw from the breeder I bought my goats from. Amazing when you start to compare.
  • I love that - fences are merely a suggestion. perfect - they had been pushing "by rubbing against" the gate in another pen (home) and meeting me at my back door - they remembered when they get to the back door - they get a Ritz cracker to go back the other way - now who's trained.

    how do you measure your butterfat readings (I'm assuming yourself)? Iam just feeding payback 16% protein and an alfalfa/grass mix. that's it. So will I need to supplement that when they are freshened? Do you make cheese plain - or do you add herbs to yours? I have only had it from the grocery store and it was goatie - I didnt care for that. Have a great week :)
  • About a month ago, my husband was complaining about our cheese yield. Instead of going up, it was going down, which is the opposite of what should happen as the lactations progress. I looked at our butterfat readings, and yep, they had been going down. I realized we had run out of sunflower seeds a couple months earlier, which was the problem. So, we bought more, and the cheese yield has gone back up. I'm looking forward to seeing our test results this month.

    Good luck with that doe that got out! They are very talented. As they say, with goats, fences are merely a suggestion.

    Melissa Johnson said:
    thanks Deborah!! It would be nice to know what your doe is doing not to mention getting a "star" :) I have visited some sites that have extensive information. thanks again!! Oh, btw, I have a doe that "appeared" outside her fence today. When I looked both gates were closed :( so I am hoping she just pushed the gate open cause I had it latched with a "flexible tie". Hopefully............ it is 47" fence - so probably, yeah.
  • thanks Deborah!! It would be nice to know what your doe is doing not to mention getting a "star" :) I have visited some sites that have extensive information. thanks again!! Oh, btw, I have a doe that "appeared" outside her fence today. When I looked both gates were closed :( so I am hoping she just pushed the gate open cause I had it latched with a "flexible tie". Hopefully............ it is 47" fence - so probably, yeah.
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