Ginger was in heat the weekend of November 17th and again the first of last week. She is again today (totally suprising me!) which is the third one in a month. There is no question because all three times, in addition to all the other symptoms, she is "woofing." One thing for certain, there will be no doubt about her when it is time to breed her. My question is: Is it common for them to cycle that quickly?
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true - and I have always thought of the clear, stringly mucous thread as ASAP - then wondered why she had creamy, thick mucous 5 days later. Did I take her back to the buck at that point? Nope.
Deborah Niemann-Boehle said:
agreed. I got mine this past spring, fell madly in love - ) As you can see by the picture. This is Ezaray - he was about 5 months old here. ^^
I may have to consider getting my own buck, I guess. This breeding business definitely isn't an exact science!
Is there no chance of her bring the buck to you? It was my experience last year - that does in heat - dont travel so well for breeding. In other words, they didnt get bred but DID get pretty upset every time I took them for that ride. ^^
I have a doe that was coming in heat w/mucous clear and creamy white - bout every 5 to 7 days for 12 times in a row. She hasnt freshened before - so I dont know if it is a thing with her - or timing?? My bucks are only 50 feet away, more or less. Her sister has freshen once - and she was bred a few times by the same buck (not so many as her sis), and she is bred. whew!
I dont remember what was said about ovulation - however, I think it is only a very short window.
What I do see is that ovulation occurs at the end of the estrus cycle. this is a great link
http://www.aces.edu/pubs/docs/U/UNP-0111/UNP-0111.html
I have a doe that I took for a "driveway date" early December. Up until then, she'd been cycling regularly @21 days. Lo and behold, she was in heat 2 weeks later, so I took her again. Not only did she come back in heat, she did so the next week, and has done so ever since!!! I don't know what's going on with the little floozie and don't know what to do. (She's about 20 months, and it was the first time I tried to breed her.) I read Debbie's info on 5-7 day cycles during a transition period and am wondering if that means they are actually ovulating every time or what. The gal that owns the buck is extremely busy and I hate to keep hauling my doe over there for nothing.
they are so funny. My doeling just over a year - when she had a session with my young buck - all he wanted to do this time was nuzzle. She stood like a statue, then when he got to work - they bred then she swiftly gave him some hard butts - looking for the nearest escape route. lol Lucky "Mom" was right there. lol
Sounds like the question resulted in closer scrutiny to the current section, always a good thing. That this happens with doelings makes perfect sense - it would be just like human girls during their first periods, not reliable and taking a while to be regular. Admittedly, I had not considered that they would be much like us.
"The doe just isn't in heat long enough for them to get her to the buck in time." I must admit to a chuckle with that translating in my mind as, "Just get me to the church on time." <g>
Regarding accepting one buck after rejecting another - I am truly surprised that does not happen more often. Admittedly, I was delighted when I took Capri to visit that she was as interested in him as he was in her. I feel confident there will be at least one litter in April, especially since she spent the night and was still calling after she got home (and she spent the night Friday night and I took her back for a few hours on Sunday). I'm not as confident about Summer but she was there for hours rather than overnight and there was not the mutual interest in the beginning but the buck was affectionate rather than pushy before I left. It was likely a case that it was a strange goat and she wasn't really sure about what was going on.
yes, that is what I meant. They will stand with the clear mucous, which I thought, meant the doe was good to go, because she had the mucous. I had always wondered what was up when I would see that white thick discharge. My vet thought it might be a vaginal infection..... ^^ ..... I didnt get my does bred at all last year cause I was taking them to a buck on seeing the clear mucous and puffy vulva - then see more evidence of heat days later.... thus, 2 bucks of my own. ^^ which I presently love as they stay "inside" their pens. It is good to know that the white mucous means asap - as you said. ^^
I have a doe that has never gotten bred. If something is wrong - I will know this year. I tried to mate her with a smaller boy but from the time I brought my little boys home - the bigger one and she always were great pals and grazed and hung out together. She would have nothing to do with the smaller boy and treated him roughly. When I switched boys - she stood and was happy to do so. So love won out....
I wouldn't say that they'll stand for him regardless. One of the other things that is in that section is that some does will not stand for a particular buck. I've seen this in my own herd before, and I've heard other ND breeders say they have seen this, but most standard goat breeders look at me like I have weird goats.
I think you're just saying that they will stand when they have clear mucous? Yes, that's often true, but my point was that when you do not own a buck and you're already seeing the white mucous, you better get her over there ASAP or forget it. We've had quite a few people on here who've had difficulty getting does bred when they have to take them somewhere for buck service. Lots of does get bred when there is clear mucous, and the sperm survives long enough for her to ovulate and wind up pregnant. Too many people see a doe in heat and think they have plenty of time and can maybe even take her to visit the buck tomorrow. I've always advised people to take a doe to a buck ASAP when they realize she's in heat. I still think that's a good idea, but knowing that the mucous changes during heat, it will be helpful for some people to know that when they see the white mucous, they really need to hurry up!
Melissa Johnson said:
what is funny to me is they will stand for the buck regardless - however, I have noticed sometimes, that the buck will not be so quick to do his job sometimes - maybe they know......
Deborah Niemann-Boehle said:
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