How Do You KNOW?

Melissa Johnson March 28, 2011 at 12:40am

case in point, my doe hadnt had a heat for months - prior she had long mucous strings, crying out - etc. then for months nothing at all. After I gave her COWP, she came into heat shortly after. The vet told me couple weeks ago, that most people give Bo-Se in the fall because it seems to increase fertility. Instead of May, the year date for my does Bo-Se, I plan to give it in October.

Deborah Niemann-Boehle March 27, 2011 at 5:14pm

Sometimes it is just a difference in personality, but sometimes it's a copper or selenium deficiency that causes silent heats or no heats.

Gullringstorpgoatgal March 27, 2011 at 9:32am

Hej from Sweden,

Thanks Deborah! Why are some ladies so very vocal and demonstrative in their heats and others are so quiet about it. It certainly would be easy if all my ladies reacted in the same way EVERY month. So such luck!

Have you ever experienced this ? Is this something I need to look into with her or is it just her way?

I will try what you suggest.

Thank you,

KSweden

Deborah Niemann-Boehle March 27, 2011 at 8:54am

As a last resort, you can pen breed -- just put her with him for three weeks. If you really want to know when she's due, then you can simply introduce them to each other twice a day, every day until she is in heat.

Gullringstorpgoatgal March 26, 2011 at 9:26am

Hej from Sweden,

I need help again! I have a 2 yr old doe who has not been bred yet but has been in heat. My problem is, her last recorded "heat" was Jan. 13-14th. After that I really can't tell if she is in heat or not. The last few days she has shown some interest in our rent-a-buck Emil's box. She will stop there and smell him for a short time, then walk off. I have not seen or heard her typical "heat" cries or seen her tail flagging. What is going on with her? Are there signs other than the obvious ones that I should be looking for?

Please help!

KSweden

Gullringstorpgoatgal March 16, 2011 at 12:42pm

Hej from Sweden,

Well we brought all the girls back in from their day in the sun and I decided to see if she would go back in with Emil. She was more than happy. They were together about 45 minutes which were the longest 45 minutes due to the fact her adopted daughter and box room mate Alika went bananas when she couldn't find her "mommy". She yelled louder than the lady in heat! It was all I could do to calm her with apples and carrots and brushing her. Finally I went to check on the "couple" and Emil was busy eating grain and Hilda had a look in her eyes that said "get me out of here". She is reunited with Alika and she is calm, no more screaming. I guess that did the job. We will see in 18-21 days!

Thanks Deborah for the advice.

KSweden

Deborah Niemann-Boehle March 16, 2011 at 12:28pm

There no right or wrong answer to this. If you have more does to breed, you might want to NOT put her back in there, because you want Emil to save his energy and his sperm for the next doe. If you don't have more does to breed, you can put her back in there for insurance. Bucks are highly motivated and will continue breeding a doe as long as she lets them, until he gets exhausted, which can happen, and it's pretty funny to watch -- unless you've just put him in with a new doe and he can't do it.

KSweden said:

Hej from Sweden,

I am so glad to find this thread. I am starting to breed my ladies and I have questions also. I have placed Hilda in the box with Emil today because today she started her "in heat screaming". She was eager to go in and they did a walk around together for a few minutes then she "stood " for him. He mounted her several times in a 1/2 hour span of time. Then she seemed to start head butting him and going for the grain . He was still after her kind of kicking at her sides as if to try and get her attention, then they were at it again. Now she and all the girls are out enjoying a bit or rare sunshine . She is still yelling. So I put her back in with Emil or just wait the number of days to see if she goes into heat again?

I am not sure just how ling to actually leave her with him in his box.

Help!

KSweden

Gullringstorpgoatgal March 16, 2011 at 9:27am

Hej from Sweden,

I am so glad to find this thread. I am starting to breed my ladies and I have questions also. I have placed Hilda in the box with Emil today because today she started her "in heat screaming". She was eager to go in and they did a walk around together for a few minutes then she "stood " for him. He mounted her several times in a 1/2 hour span of time. Then she seemed to start head butting him and going for the grain . He was still after her kind of kicking at her sides as if to try and get her attention, then they were at it again. Now she and all the girls are out enjoying a bit or rare sunshine . She is still yelling. So I put her back in with Emil or just wait the number of days to see if she goes into heat again?

I am not sure just how ling to actually leave her with him in his box.

Help!

KSweden

Melissa Johnson February 1, 2011 at 2:34am

I think this question would go here, maybe..... I wondered if anyone else's does get moody after being bred?? This doe was bred for the first time in Nov. then a couple of weeks later, had blood tinged tail hair fringe. She came into heat then also. I didnt bred her again until January 16, then 7 days later she was in heat again, fence watching, calling out, some mucous on her rear. I bred her again on the 23rd. She settled down some, then the next weekend had mucous again, went out to where she last saw the buck. The following week, she kind of went off her food, she has been eating, but not nearly as much. I noticed she didnt have the belly bump of a goat full of hay and looked like she has lost a little weight. I gave her some probios, and she seemed to perk up a little. I remember her sister acted weird, moody, etc. like something was wrong shortly after she was bred. Then a few weeks later seemed to be her old self again. Anyone, experience that? Is that how they act after being bred?

Melissa Johnson October 21, 2010 at 1:12am

Someone advised me against breeding mine at the same time since this will be a first for me. She told me it would very likely be overwhelming to have 2 does kid at the same time. I definitely agree.

Melissa Johnson said:

yeah, the buck came over again today. The owner is so accommodating to bring him over. She had clear mucous, then it went to a creamier color. And much different behavior!! I let them out of their pen today - and she just took off towards the field leaving sister to her own interest. It was funny and very new. She knew he must be out there somewhere (so sad to say, no he wasnt within running distance, lol). So when the buck came over, she stood and he made contact 3 times. So hopefully. Her sister on the other hand, hasnt had mucous hanging for a month or more. She got a little aggressive with her sister at the hay ben which is way out of character for her. Usually it is the other way around. But outwardly, she is showing no signs.

Tammy said:
It has taken me 5 months to figure out when a doe is in heat and then there is such a small window of opportunity. We pen breed our four does and it has been lively. I won't do that again. We had to many deliveries back to back. So next time, we plan to spread it out a little. What I have noticed is that they will have a little drainage under the tail region. The buck will flirt and call at her. She will call back and will play hard to get and then she will pee in front of him. Then she will stand still and he will mount her and it only last for seconds. Almost to the point you wonder did anything ever happen. However, it does. Later you will notice more stuff on her tail that doesn't look like the first drainage. There is a difference. If you have a wether in with the girls, he and the other girls will definitely let you know if she is in heat the next month. The girls will actually try to mount her and you will know that she is in heat again.

Hope that helps some.

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