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  • Ah okay. I understand.  This doeling will just be a pet and not be bred.

      Do you think that it is an indicator that when doing the burn, and it bled, it would be a polled kid or just maybe done too early?  None of the others have ever bled. 

    It would be interesting to have sign or indicators to know the difference.  She is doing okay.  Went to check on her.  They are beautiful little doelings..

  • It's not really a "problem." I just wouldn't want someone to not know that they had a polled goat because 1/2 of her kids would be polled, and some of them could wind up being unnecessarily disbudded.

    Trish said:

    Deborah, would there be a problem if a polled goat had gone through the disbudding process?

  • Deborah, would there be a problem if a polled goat had gone through the disbudding process?

  • There have been plenty of online arguments about horned goats throwing polled kids, but the vast majority of people insist that it is impossible for two horned parents to throw a polled kid. However, there have undoubtedly been polled goats that were mistakenly disbudded and then threw polled kids. For this reason, the polled does sometimes wind up not being disbudded until 3-4 on our farm, because I don't want to give a buyer a big surprise if I incorrectly disbud a kid that's polled. It is so much easier with bucks because if they're horned, they are born with horn buds.

  • Thanks Patty...   Yeah I don't know what made this doeling different from her sisters and the rest of the group.  I think I will wait until the bud really comes up first before doing it.   I will tell the new owner she may have a scur or may not.

  • I've done what I think was a poor job disbudding and had a kid look like that.  Here's a pic.   I think you can see she has the same rounded bump that your doeling has.  I really don't know for sure what happened with this doe.  I sold her as a kid after explaining to her new owners that I thought she might have some type of horn, but I was unwilling to re-do the job.  They wanted her anyway.  I have a just once and live with the consequences policy after re-doing a buckling once.  It was awful, bloody and traumatizing for me.  I can relate to your not being okay. :(  I don't know what I did different than any other time, but it looked funny after.  I've seen pics of this doe in the fall around 6 months old, and this winter, and I couldn't see any type of scur in the photos they sent.  I'm not sure if there's something small hiding under the hair or not.  My goats are also not polled and have never thrown a polled kid.

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  • When I first did it there was a lot of bleeding.  today there was, what appeared to me, as a horn coming through although it did not break the skin.  Is there such a thing as a polled goat when there is no history in the sire or dam background?

  • From the pictures she looks like my little polled doeling. She has those same rounded bumps as the ones in your pictures. 

  • Oh yeah, they all have horns even her sisters and the prior kidding last year.  Both parents are horned.    I think I got it, but it breaks my heart to hear her scream.  She might have a little scur, but that's better than nothing.  I don't want to do it again.  I gave her a baby aspirin like I did the others and put an extra coat of alushield on her. It doesn't seem to be bleeding like it was...

    She seems fine, I'm not  :-(

  • Are you absolutely sure she's not polled? Have you had at least 10-15 kids out of both sire and dam to know that they were not disbudded when they were actually polled?

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