This is a buckling I am quite fond of with a terrific background. His dad is my favorite buck and his mom has a  lot to offer and has produced super offspring as well. He is 6 months old and is not expected to go over 23" when grown. She says his pics aren't good because he was not happy and there for hunched up etc. I don't like the way his face clipping was left, but I guess they weren't worried about that part. I will give a little more detail later but wanted to get the pics up to see what ya'll think. I really want a blue eyed buck or 2 but I don't want to buy for color either.

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  • Actually I believe the doe is a lot nicer than her numbers show and that the reason for it was not a c-section etc. but the fact that she was purchased from someone who must have not been milking her because they have decided not to milk her here either because she is a WITCH to milk. I can't say that I blame her. If I had a farm that big I would not battle a 7 year old that someone had not been milking either. She has far to many easy milkers to go to that trouble. Including a daughter from this same doe and more from this buck.

    BTW Thanks for putting those numbers in plain English for me, as usual you make it sound so easy!

  • That means that at 72 "days in milk" she has produced 170 pounds of milk. If you do the math -- 170 divided by 72, that's only 2.36 pounds of milk per day -- and that is in the first two months of lactation, which are the heaviest. That's barely enough to feed two healthy kids. At 72 days, you would want to see at least 210 to 280 pounds of milk (3-4 pounds a day). If a doe isn't making that much at two months fresh, you aren't going to get a lot of milk out of her as a milker in the coming months as her supply drops. Do you know if this doe had a c-section or if there is any reason her supply would be so low? Seven is not over the hill, but it would be good to see production numbers from when she was younger so that you're seeing the full picture.

    Honey Bee is an amazing doe, but if her son was bred to a mediocre doe, you can't expect another Honey Bee.

  • The dam: Whatever this means, I don't know if it's what you mean but here goes: 2012 DHIR: DIM: 72,  MILK 170,  FAT 14 (8.2%), PROTEIN 7 (4.1%) 2012 LA 88 VERY GOOD She is a seven year old doe out of Promisedland CP Zippo. 

    The sires dam is ARMCH Rosasharns UMT Honey Bee 4*DE, 4M* I'll see what else I can figure out as I go.

  • If you are breeding for milk, you need to know more about the milk production of his dam and his sire's dam. Pretty goats don't necessarily put milk in the bucket. And averaging 8.7% butterfat does not sound right. That sounds like butterfat during late lactation, not an average. If the breeders are on DHI, they usually have milk records on their website. Can you share that info with us?

  • His sire is a Rosasharn buck and has earned triple + status in all three ND Associations, ADGA, AGS, NDGA: +*B, +*S, +DAR ! is the first ND buck to accomplish triple milk + through his daughters LA 2012 89 Very Good! Sue Rucker JuJu Sire Award 2011 from ANDDA

    The dam is a Little Tots Estate doe who produced the Res. Ch. Sr. Doe Alabama State Fair and Res. Ch. Sr. Doe Dothan Ala.

    The dam 2012 LA 89 Very Good She is on DHIR test and is averaging 8.7% Butterfat so far.

    Don't know as much about her as him but she is very nice. 

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