Posted by Jess on June 21, 2012 at 9:11pm in Health
As I live in a selenium deficient area I would like to give them the Bose gel instead of getting a vet to give them an injection. Because of the lack of a knowledgable goat vet in my area and the expense every 6 months. Does anyone know the pros and cons of the two methods or a reason why I should give the injectable instead of the gel? Thank you. I love this site you guys are like my own personal peanut gallery. You help me make my educated decisions so much more educated.
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Oh how gross! Animals do those things sometimes. I remember when the girls first came in from New Mexico one of them grabbed a cigarette butt off the ground and it was gone. I tried to retrieve it but no luck. Guess it did no harm. I have never seen it happen again.
One day Marley got a legal size sheet of copy paper Kate left behind from a drawing session and was downing it and I did get it. That whole paper was just going right down, it looked like a magician pulling a handkerchief out of his mouth or something when I pulled it out. I couldn't believe that goat. But thats our Marley. That is how she got her name!
About those horses, I'm pretty sure that horses are more likely to eat poisonous stuff than goats though. I don't think anything is as picky as a goat! Funny they are the ones people talk about eating cans!
Mine seam to try to eat everything that is not edible and are picky with anything I want them to eat. Such as grass, plants and hay. But they did eat a fly strip covered in dead flys that I dropped in a matter of seconds. And acted like it was the most delisiouse thing that god created.
Margaret Langley said:
About those horses, I'm pretty sure that horses are more likely to eat poisonous stuff than goats though. I don't think anything is as picky as a goat! Funny they are the ones people talk about eating cans!
"conversation the other day about poisonous plants and how they probably avoid them if they have options. One of the interesting things about selenium is that supposedly the reinforcements that were supposed to help Gen. Custer at Little Big Horn were delayed because their horses got sick from selenium toxicity when they were traveling through an area with known high selenium in the soil. But in that case, the horses didn't have a choice but to eat what was there."
Wow! What an interesting bit of information. It sure goes back to the quote (accurate or not), "A horse, a horse, my kingdom for a horse." showing how a seemingly minor thing can lead to major events.
Yes, that's the one. Unless you live in an area that has a lot of selenium, I don't think I'd worry about toxicity with the gel. It doesn't really have a lot of selenium in it, especially if you're only doing it once a month, which I think is the recommendation on the label.
The only selenium overdoses I've ever heard of were from injections of MuSe (a cattle selenium that someone mistakenly injected into goats at the BoSe dosage) and injections of MultiMin. Toxicity from oral sources is pretty rare. Remember the conversation the other day about poisonous plants and how they probably avoid them if they have options. One of the interesting things about selenium is that supposedly the reinforcements that were supposed to help Gen. Custer at Little Big Horn were delayed because their horses got sick from selenium toxicity when they were traveling through an area with known high selenium in the soil. But in that case, the horses didn't have a choice but to eat what was there. So, if you're in the Nebraska, SD, Wyoming area, you might be okay without supplemental Se.
Margaret Langley said:
Are you talking about the 12 pd. pail for 18.95? Would that be the right one?
I have the gel I got from Jeffers and am also worried about over doing it because what I had seen about that was bad. I don't know if we are deficient here.
There is an expiration date on the bottle. Freshness all depends on where you bought it. You can have a date that's two years out, or you can have one that expires next month! Always beware of mail order companies that put vaccines or meds on sale because it usually means they're going to expire soon.
Jess said:
Thanks Deborah. Along the same line can u tell me if cd/t has an expectation date? I bought a bottle in April and need to give it in October. Will it last that long in the refrigerator ?
Thanks Deborah. Along the same line can u tell me if cd/t has an expectation date? I bought a bottle in April and need to give it in October. Will it last that long in the refrigerator ?
Are you talking about the 12 pd. pail for 18.95? Would that be the right one?
I have the gel I got from Jeffers and am also worried about over doing it because what I had seen about that was bad. I don't know if we are deficient here.
Grass cattle people swear by "cafeteria style" minerals where every mineral is in its own feeder, so the animals choose exactly what they want. They say they see the various consumption go up and down through the year. I know kelp consumption goes way down on my does when they are not lactating.
Putting it out free choice would be great, but I thought to much could be poisones. They won't eat more then needed. Also how did u know that your goats were zinc deficient.
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Oh how gross! Animals do those things sometimes. I remember when the girls first came in from New Mexico one of them grabbed a cigarette butt off the ground and it was gone. I tried to retrieve it but no luck. Guess it did no harm. I have never seen it happen again.
One day Marley got a legal size sheet of copy paper Kate left behind from a drawing session and was downing it and I did get it. That whole paper was just going right down, it looked like a magician pulling a handkerchief out of his mouth or something when I pulled it out. I couldn't believe that goat. But thats our Marley. That is how she got her name!
About those horses, I'm pretty sure that horses are more likely to eat poisonous stuff than goats though. I don't think anything is as picky as a goat! Funny they are the ones people talk about eating cans!
Margaret Langley said:
"conversation the other day about poisonous plants and how they probably avoid them if they have options. One of the interesting things about selenium is that supposedly the reinforcements that were supposed to help Gen. Custer at Little Big Horn were delayed because their horses got sick from selenium toxicity when they were traveling through an area with known high selenium in the soil. But in that case, the horses didn't have a choice but to eat what was there."
Wow! What an interesting bit of information. It sure goes back to the quote (accurate or not), "A horse, a horse, my kingdom for a horse." showing how a seemingly minor thing can lead to major events.
Yes, that's the one. Unless you live in an area that has a lot of selenium, I don't think I'd worry about toxicity with the gel. It doesn't really have a lot of selenium in it, especially if you're only doing it once a month, which I think is the recommendation on the label.
The only selenium overdoses I've ever heard of were from injections of MuSe (a cattle selenium that someone mistakenly injected into goats at the BoSe dosage) and injections of MultiMin. Toxicity from oral sources is pretty rare. Remember the conversation the other day about poisonous plants and how they probably avoid them if they have options. One of the interesting things about selenium is that supposedly the reinforcements that were supposed to help Gen. Custer at Little Big Horn were delayed because their horses got sick from selenium toxicity when they were traveling through an area with known high selenium in the soil. But in that case, the horses didn't have a choice but to eat what was there. So, if you're in the Nebraska, SD, Wyoming area, you might be okay without supplemental Se.
Margaret Langley said:
There is an expiration date on the bottle. Freshness all depends on where you bought it. You can have a date that's two years out, or you can have one that expires next month! Always beware of mail order companies that put vaccines or meds on sale because it usually means they're going to expire soon.
Jess said:
Are you talking about the 12 pd. pail for 18.95? Would that be the right one?
I have the gel I got from Jeffers and am also worried about over doing it because what I had seen about that was bad. I don't know if we are deficient here.
It is this one:
http://www.caprinesupply.com/selenium-with-vitamin-e.html
Grass cattle people swear by "cafeteria style" minerals where every mineral is in its own feeder, so the animals choose exactly what they want. They say they see the various consumption go up and down through the year. I know kelp consumption goes way down on my does when they are not lactating.
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