We would love to travel and take our goats with us in a toyhauler, so that we can always have fresh goat milk wherever we are. Is this breed travel-hardy?
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We would love to travel and take our goats with us in a toyhauler, so that we can always have fresh goat milk wherever we are. Is this breed travel-hardy?
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She has her baby. No other goats.
About your LaMancha- I work with a trained homeopath and rarely pick my own remedies except for acute small things. There are many good homeopaths- I use a vet homeopath but there are many options.
Sounds like your doe is unhappy- is she an only goat???
Judy...I wonder if my email went to her trash bin and she never saw it?? Would you please confirm her email address for me to make certain that I sent it to the right address? haleschatz@gmail.com
Judy! That is awesome! I am a whole-hearted believer in homeopathy! That is the only kind of health care that I receive for health problems! Had no idea that it would work on goats, too, but it makes perfect sense!
We recently bought a 160 lb Lamancha and her baby. The doe seemed so relaxed at the previous owner's. She even let us milk her without batting an eye. He trimmed her hooves without the tiniest struggle! When we got her to our place, she did a 180! She butted my DH twice, pushed me around, stomps at every milking, and resists being led with a leash. This is why I am looking into NDs. This Lamancha is way too big for me to handle and a challenge for my DH even. So, I feel that a smaller breed would better suit us.
However, would you know of a remedy for the Lamancha's problem? It would be lovely to straighten her out, since she gives a lot of milk. And we would like to keep her if she straightens out, but if not, we will have to cull her.
Not necessarily. You'd need to talk to the owner. As I said in an earlier post, I used to have a doe that was VERY upset with the tiniest change, whether it was going to a show or being rotated to a new pasture. She is the only adult goat I ever owned to this day that got herself caught in an Electronet fence -- because she was freaking out about being moved to a new pasture. And she was a finished champion in both AGS and ADGA! So she did show beautifully, but she was very upset with any changes. I'm just saying that if a goat comes from a show herd, you could ask the owner how each particular goat travels. Most goats never leave the farm, so you'd really have no idea how the goat would react to being moved around a lot.
Narnia said:
What I (in my limited goat experience but long years of dog health care) do is work with an experienced homeopath for all health related issues- tendency for parasites, needs more nutritional "help" than others, not growing well, failure to mature, temperment nervous and unforgiving...etc.
My homeopath listens to my description of the whole animal, asks questions and perscribes a remedy based upon the whole picture- not the "issue" but the whole animal.
Ie- two goats- both dam raised, not well socialized, weaned, both treated same after weaning, one bulky, thick boned, strong willed and nervous but with a little careful food based calm care- becomes friendly in 2 weeks. The other, thinner, fine boned, very curious, gazes into eyes, less confident but always hanging on periphery, after 2 weeks same treatment- no real change of shyness. They would get 2 different remedies even though outward symptom is shyness.
I use homeopathy because I believe if you cure an animal with homeopathy- it goes to the DNA and thus you can heal the innner inbalance and not pass it on to future generations. If you just suppress the issue with drigs or poor extra nutrients in- you don't examine the reason the animal is needy.
I was stupid 2 years ago buying a shy vaccinated doeling because my heart wanted her. Spent hours with food treats, calm sitting near, etc- nothing helped. She was also appearing stunted, seemed to be holding onto her baby coat and baby appearance. No worms. Never had her tail up around other goats except when in heat!!! Beat up on alot! She got X- I can't remember what it was- in a few days, tail up, no one beat on her, she approached me and started really responding to my daily special treat offers. Then she lost lots of her hair- looked like illness but I waited. Tail went down shortly after - so I gave her a 2nd dose of X and in one week- her body matured into a more adult elegant looking goat. Coat looking better but adult like. Still friendly, tail up again.
Will I breed her- not sure yet- will assess rest of summer and if I do- it will be to my super friendly, easy going, strong, happy buckling.
Some might argue that it was her age. But several people noticed enough to comment about her change in body (could be how she is now holding herself, her aura, did she mature overnight).
I've used homeopathy long time now. If a remedy can turn a breech baby into a normal presentation in 15 minutes- maybe it can help balance the goat who is insecure and who's body shows this to other goats and to the human eye?
If I'm going to breed a goat breed which is booming in numbers- I have to only breed my best and I can't detemine that from udders or championships- only from living with them, and deciding what I want to maximize or minimize. So I start by picking good genetics and refine within that.
I am a newbie in nigerians but not in natural health and it is fun and so far rewarding to combine the two.
Judy
Judy, I emailed her right away, but have not heard from her yet.
I don't understand what you mean by,
"The few I have that are stress goats are on watch- they don't get "fixed" with homeopathy- they are out. My doe that I bought 2 years ago has really done wonders on her remedy schedule and I'm working on one right now."
What are you "fixing" with homeopathy and what homeopathic remedies are you using?
I agree with you- a stressful animal might be one you cull as it won't be able to handle life. Might be fine in home secure routine but for health you want a goat who rolls with you. My viewpoint. The few I have that are stress goats are on watch- they don't get "fixed" with homeopathy- they are out. My doe that I bought 2 years ago has really done wonders on her remedy schedule and I'm working on one right now.
Hale will share things I'm sure!
Thank you! Great info! I have located 2 yearling does from a show herd, $500 each, producing 2 lbs and 3 lbs respectively. I could certainly inquire about the travel, etc. So, the kids from show herds would be better travelers than kids not from show herds?
Stress can cause a small problem like parasites to become a big problem. You also see a decrease in milk production when goats get stressed. Since milk production is important to me, it was one thing I did not like about showing. It will probably cost you big bucks, but if you find a doe on milk test that's a great producer and attends shows regularly, that might provide fairly good odds that you'd have a goat that would work with your plan. Kids out of does like that, however, generally cost upwards of $700 and more. The doe does not necessarily need to be a champion, but show herds tend to price their goats higher, even for those that don't win. AND you'd want one that is on milk test so that you could see she's a good producer under stress.
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