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Nervous new mommy !Advice Please!

Posted by Mary on September 30, 2011 at 6:32pm in Health

!Advice Please! My two little does have arrived in Oregon from New Mexico at my husbands aunts house. We are going to pick them up on Sunday.  My aunt had a local expert on Nigerians look them over; she said one was great while the other looked malnourished and has warts on her ears and belly among other issues.  Looking over their papers she said they both have great lines and that the breeder was reputable.  I paid $350 each for a show/breeding quality doe -- should I be concerned?  I have a one year old and am concerned about being contagious -- your thoughts are very much appreciated:)

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  • Deborah Niemann-Boehle October 8, 2011 at 8:38pm
    So glad to hear that!

    Mary said:

    Now that I got to see these bumps in person I'm sure they are fly bites and should go away within the month -- mountains out of mole hills *sigh of relief*

     

     

     

  • Mary October 8, 2011 at 7:32pm

    Now that I got to see these bumps in person I'm sure they are fly bites and should go away within the month -- mountains out of mole hills *sigh of relief*

     

     

     

  • Mary October 1, 2011 at 12:06am
    Thank you:)  these "warts" are on the ears and belly... When I get her home I'll take some photos to see what you all think:) you put me at ease:)  sigh of relief

    Deborah Niemann-Boehle said:

    Here is what the CDC has to say about sore mouth and humans:

    http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvrd/orf_virus/

     

    As for conformation issues -- kids can change a LOT from one month to the next, so I wouldn't worry about something minor. I don't "talk up" kids for that reason. In fact, I hate to "evaluate" kids because they can be gorgeous one day and gawky next month or vice versa. I even got to the point where I hated showing juniors (like a lot of experienced breeders) because a junior champion doesn't mean much. However, if the doe has something that is a serious fault, such as a teat defect, then she should not have been sold for $350. If the breeder just didn't notice that, he or she should be willing to adjust the price and refund the difference.

  • Deborah Niemann-Boehle September 30, 2011 at 11:23pm

    Here is what the CDC has to say about sore mouth and humans:

    http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvrd/orf_virus/

     

    As for conformation issues -- kids can change a LOT from one month to the next, so I wouldn't worry about something minor. I don't "talk up" kids for that reason. In fact, I hate to "evaluate" kids because they can be gorgeous one day and gawky next month or vice versa. I even got to the point where I hated showing juniors (like a lot of experienced breeders) because a junior champion doesn't mean much. However, if the doe has something that is a serious fault, such as a teat defect, then she should not have been sold for $350. If the breeder just didn't notice that, he or she should be willing to adjust the price and refund the difference.

  • Mary September 30, 2011 at 7:47pm

    I just found this link on herbal remedies for warts on goats if anyone is interested:)

    http://www.ehow.co.uk/way_5780225_herbal-cure-warts-goats.html

  • Mary September 30, 2011 at 7:14pm
    *giggles* yes human child:) these are my first goats:) The Does were transported by someone who picked up their does from the same breeder.   "Part of the definition of a reputable breeder is that they don't sell visibly sick animals."  I assumed the same thing.  Mostly my concern is about it being a strain of soremouth virus that can spread to the body due to low immune system.  The doe was just recently weaned could this be why she looks malnourished?  Is soremouth contagious to humans? The other issues were confirmation issues which, in the opinion of the lady in Oregon, made her not worth what I paid:( Your right I should contact her directly, but wanted to see what all of you thought so I could hold a slightly intelligent conversation with her:)  thank you sooooooo much for your thought out reply:D

    Deborah Niemann-Boehle said:

    When you say  you have a one-year-old, I assume you mean human child? If so, I can't think of anything that a kid could give a child. If you mean one-year-old goat, then there is always the possibility of disease or parasites when adding new goats to a herd.

    You should speak to the ND person who looked at the goats. Second-hand knowledge can be misleading or incomplete, at best. Malnourished usually means parasites, especially if the other goat looks great. I'm shocked that someone would ship a goat that looks as bad as this one sounds. And find out about the "other issues." Part of the definition of a reputable breeder is that they don't sell visibly sick animals.

  • Mary September 30, 2011 at 7:13pm

    The Does were transported by someone who picked up their does from the same breeder.   "Part of the definition of a reputable breeder is that they don't sell visibly sick animals."  I assumed the same thing.  Mostly my concern is about it being a strain of soremouth virus that can spread to the body due to low immune system.  The doe was just recently weaned could this be why she looks malnourished?  Is soremouth contagious to humans? The other issues where confirmation issues which, in the opinion of the lady in Oregon, made her not worth what I paid:( Your right I should contact her directly, but wanted to see what all of you thought so I could hold a slightly intelligent conversation with her:)  thank you sooooooo much for your thought out reply:D

     

  • Deborah Niemann-Boehle September 30, 2011 at 6:59pm
    When an animal is shipped via air, they're supposed to have a health certificate. I can't imagine that a vet would sign a health cert if he or she saw animals with such visible issues. If the goat does have all these issues, I'd call the vet who signed that piece of paper and start asking questions.
  • Deborah Niemann-Boehle September 30, 2011 at 6:57pm

    When you say  you have a one-year-old, I assume you mean human child? If so, I can't think of anything that a kid could give a child. If you mean one-year-old goat, then there is always the possibility of disease or parasites when adding new goats to a herd.

    You should speak to the ND person who looked at the goats. Second-hand knowledge can be misleading or incomplete, at best. Malnourished usually means parasites, especially if the other goat looks great. I'm shocked that someone would ship a goat that looks as bad as this one sounds. And find out about the "other issues." Part of the definition of a reputable breeder is that they don't sell visibly sick animals.

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