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DeWormer for kids

Posted by Tammy on November 19, 2010 at 6:25pm in Goats 101

 

Does anybody recommend a certain type of dewormer for kids? I have tried to get them to eat the pellets and had no luck.  Do they make an injectable version safe for them? If not, is there a liquid that I can use? 

 

Thanks.

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  • Tammy November 22, 2010 at 4:36pm
    Our vet recommended the cydectin, by drench. I guess I have a lot to process and decide. Thanks for everybody's advice.


    Deborah Niemann-Boehle said:
    When I first got started almost nine years ago, several breeders with many years of experience said to never give ivermectin as an injection in goats because of possible seizures and death. Since I know what dosage to use orally, it doesn't make sense to me to do it as an injection if there is a possible negative outcome. This is the first time I've heard of anyone using ivermectin as an injectable. Until Dianea posted yesterday, I would have said that no one does it.

    About a year ago, the Southern Consortium for Parasite Control in Small Ruminants was recommending injectible cydectin for goats, but a few months ago their website said that it had caused seizures or death in some animals, so they were now recommending it only be used orally. I just went to their website and can't find that info, but on the home page it says that the meat withdrawal time for injectible cydectin is 120-230 days, but it is only 23 days for oral. It doesn't say anything about milk, but that's another thing to think about when using it in milkers. They don't say if there's a difference in milk, probably because they didn't study that, but that's a huge difference between the two different withdrawal times, so perhaps another reason not to use injectable.


    PlayRite Farm said:
    that is interesting, i give ivemectin as an injectable every time for the last 4 years and have never had any problems I gave injectable cydectin this year and still no problems that is the first time i've ever heard that there was a risk





    Deborah Niemann-Boehle said:
    You can use any dewormer for kids. Do NOT ever use an injectable dewormer for goats of any age. I've heard of too many cases of goats have seizures and/or dieing following an injection of dewormer. Even if you buy an injectable form -- such as Ivermectin for cattle -- you give it orally.

    If you're thinking of deworming the kids that were just born a couple weeks ago, however, they should not need to be dewormed. If they do seriously have a heavy worm load, then you need to be looking at the environment and correct that, because if the pasture is loaded with parasites, they're going to be so stressed that their growth will be stunted.
  • Deborah Niemann-Boehle November 21, 2010 at 7:11pm
    When I first got started almost nine years ago, several breeders with many years of experience said to never give ivermectin as an injection in goats because of possible seizures and death. Since I know what dosage to use orally, it doesn't make sense to me to do it as an injection if there is a possible negative outcome. This is the first time I've heard of anyone using ivermectin as an injectable. Until Dianea posted yesterday, I would have said that no one does it.

    About a year ago, the Southern Consortium for Parasite Control in Small Ruminants was recommending injectible cydectin for goats, but a few months ago their website said that it had caused seizures or death in some animals, so they were now recommending it only be used orally. I just went to their website and can't find that info, but on the home page it says that the meat withdrawal time for injectible cydectin is 120-230 days, but it is only 23 days for oral. It doesn't say anything about milk, but that's another thing to think about when using it in milkers. They don't say if there's a difference in milk, probably because they didn't study that, but that's a huge difference between the two different withdrawal times, so perhaps another reason not to use injectable.


    PlayRite Farm said:
    that is interesting, i give ivemectin as an injectable every time for the last 4 years and have never had any problems I gave injectable cydectin this year and still no problems that is the first time i've ever heard that there was a risk





    Deborah Niemann-Boehle said:
    You can use any dewormer for kids. Do NOT ever use an injectable dewormer for goats of any age. I've heard of too many cases of goats have seizures and/or dieing following an injection of dewormer. Even if you buy an injectable form -- such as Ivermectin for cattle -- you give it orally.

    If you're thinking of deworming the kids that were just born a couple weeks ago, however, they should not need to be dewormed. If they do seriously have a heavy worm load, then you need to be looking at the environment and correct that, because if the pasture is loaded with parasites, they're going to be so stressed that their growth will be stunted.
  • Deborah Niemann-Boehle November 19, 2010 at 11:31pm
    I usually deworm either the day they leave or a couple days before. The stress of moving often lets worms get a grip on them. Do you have any liquid dewormers for your adults? If not, you can give Safeguard for goats at the label dosage. If you use Ivermectin injectable for cattle, you would give it orally at TWICE the cattle dosage. You'll need a needle to get it out of the bottle, but then remove the needle and give it orally.


    Tammy said:
    The kids that were first born about 6 weeks ago, go to there new homes in the next week or two. Do I need to deworm them before then? If so, what do you recommend? The pellets are to much for them to eat.
  • Tammy November 19, 2010 at 8:11pm
    The kids that were first born about 6 weeks ago, go to there new homes in the next week or two. Do I need to deworm them before then? If so, what do you recommend? The pellets are to much for them to eat.
  • Deborah Niemann-Boehle November 19, 2010 at 7:38pm
    You can use any dewormer for kids. Do NOT ever use an injectable dewormer for goats of any age. I've heard of too many cases of goats have seizures and/or dieing following an injection of dewormer. Even if you buy an injectable form -- such as Ivermectin for cattle -- you give it orally.

    If you're thinking of deworming the kids that were just born a couple weeks ago, however, they should not need to be dewormed. If they do seriously have a heavy worm load, then you need to be looking at the environment and correct that, because if the pasture is loaded with parasites, they're going to be so stressed that their growth will be stunted.
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