Hi All!
I have 8 babies that will be going to homes soon. 3 are not being registered - they are wethers and going as pets who have no interest in showing wethers in the little bit they could do.
The other five are doelings and they will all be registered.
When I bought my bucks - the woman gave them to me registerable but not registered - so I do it.
When I bought past girls - the breeder registered them and sent it to me when she was all done.
What is more "regular"? What do you do?
Do ALL of you wether the boys before they go? A big Nigerian farm around here doesn't sell any wethers - she sells bucklings and wethers get no papers I guess until proof of castration or something like that - very much like dog people do!
What is standard? This year I'm doing the wethering. But I can see the woman argument to have new owners do it. ($$)
Do you sell goats WITH collars or no collars?
Do you all have contracts or just guidance notes. I'm selling 3 girls to a most lovely family who have YOUR book, Deborah! They have researched for 2 years - perfect sounding situation - I'm so hopeful!
Any other tips about selling would be helpful!
IE. rescue remedy for babies, or other things changing before they go - or leave everything as it is and just go?
Judy
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Thank you Astrud! That was great help and sounds like we have similar philosophies!
I'm thinking of an abbreviated contract just because I never follow contracts from the dog breeders I buy from - as I'm more natural than they are. And when I find a natural breeder I "bond" with - no contract is needed as we have like minds. And as someone who taught natural health care for cats and dogs for years and years - I saw how many people ignored the contract from the non-vaccinating/raw diet breeder - so very frustrating. BUT, I want the people to know I'm here if they ever can't keep the goats. So - we'll see.
Thanks again for the completeness of the ideas and response!!!
Judy
Hi Astrud,
I love the fact that you gave one of Deborah's books to each Doe buyer! Also is there anyway you can send me a copy of the contract-I don't have one yet & would like to see an example. My email is jannyw@centurytel.net Thanks in advance
Astrud F. Wheeles said:
Hi Judy,
This is how we have handled our sales this year, of course it has been our first kidding season, but so far are OK with how we handled things.
We ended with 4 doelings that were sold and I registered them. I sent in the registration papers and had them put in the new owners names automatically, since that is how the breeders we had dealt with in the past done it. I love the fact that under ADGA you can do it online and the certificate is usually delivered within the week. This year things got a little slower since we did not have bucks early in the breeding season, so we used a local breeder's bucks. Just took a little longer since we had to wait for the breeder to file the service memo. We have acquired a few bucks since then and plan to do our own breedings, so my plan is to get everybody registered online.
We weathered all the boys that were born on the farm this year, since some does were First fresheners and the others we were not sure of the production. We weathered them before they left since we dam raised and they left after they were two months old. For us it was not a big deal to weathered them, we were just not quite sure in the beginning how to use the bordizzo, but we got the hang of it. The last weather to leave left at almost 12 weeks old and we could see that the job was done with the burdizzo. I guess you could charge a little more for the weathers if you want to recoup your labor for weathering them. We have only purchased one weather in the past and the breeder said that she would not take any less than 100 to cover her cost of weathering him. I like to make sure that if I have already decided that the goat is to be a weather it becomes so. There are so many unregistered goats out there and while the papers don't make the goat, the whole process of registering along with all the programs that the registries offered ensure that the breed is being improved. If you have a great goat you want it to get recognized.
Best of luck,
Astrud
We did not sell the goats with any collars. That was the responsibility of owner. We did sell some of our older does (wanted to get better lines with better confirmation and more production) and those we did sell with collars. We did make some goodie bags for the new owners. It included a little bit of mineral, kelp and some of the grain they had been eating. For anybody that purchased a doeling, we gave a copy of Deborah's book. Some got the book before they picked up their kids and you could tell they had been reading it. We also told them where we got the mineral and where they could get grain etc.
We did have contracts for the new owners to sign. It basically tells them that they are responsible for the goats and make sure that they have proper care and that if they have any problems and need to get rid of the goats to please contact us. We copied it from a breeder we have purchased goats in the past.
Of course we are always available for questions to the owners and try to help them as best we can, since I feel we still have much to learn.
Astrud