Hey Everyone. I joined this site a few months ago and have learned quite a bit from reading your questions and answers but now I have a question of my own. I have four Nigerians - two does and two 4 month old doelings. One of my doelings, Chrysanthemum (Chrysee), has been having abnormal poops. It doesn't look like diarrhea but instead of looking like berries they look like dog poop. This started on Thursday, the 20th. Friday evening I gave her 5g of Probios and I did this again Sunday evening. Nothing has really changed. She's acting totally normal and still has a nice appetite. I gave the does their dewormer (Positive Pellets) last night and I started the kids on theirs this morning (Wrm Clear.) They're all UTD on their shots and haven't any change in environment unless the weather getting colder counts. Both the kids get alfalfa pellets and sweet feed 2x a day and the sweet feed has steam rolled corn in it. They also get hay coastal hay 24/7 and have had a mineral salt block since the day they were born that is shared by all four goats. What could the problem be and what can I do to fix it?
This is the link to the Wrm Clear-
http://www.jeffersequine.com/wrm-clear/camid/equ/cp/0040234
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That would be a controversial decision. Some people treat all their kids if one has coccidiosis because in many cases all of the kids do wind up getting it, so it's just easier to start and stop everyone on the same day, rather than spreading it out. All goats have some coccidia in their gut, however, so a lot of people don't worry about it if they aren't showing symptoms of coccidiosis, which is typically diarrhea.
Deborah, our medication for the Coccidiousis is in today, but I only have my buck that's poop is still clumpy. Should I still treat all of them for it, or should I just treat my buck? They are giving me Corid and I asked about giving it to them as a drench instead of in their water and she agreed. Going this afternoon after daycare to pick it up. I am suppose to give it to them once time daily for five days. Thanks
You can add it to their water, but I really prefer to give it to them orally once a day for five days. That way you know they're definitely getting what they're supposed to get. If they're used to cows, I'd say that putting it in their water would be preferred. I've never dosed a cow and hope I never have to! It's probably Sulmet, Albon, or Corid.
We got our fecal test back today and 3 of the goats have Cocidiousis (sp?) and 2 have tape worm. They are treating the 2 with tape worm with Panacur for 3 days and they had to order the medicine for Cocidiousis. She said its a medicine you add to their water. Cannot remember the name off hand. Does that sound right to you Deborah? This vet clinic is awesome, but they do a lot more with horses and cows so I just want to makes sure that I am doing the correct thing.
They are still eating a lot of hay, but they have been grazing more. Plants are starting to sprout since its been in the 70's the last 2 weeks. So much for winter!! LOL The first doe just delivered Sunday night and I had started a week before she delivered giving her 1/2 cup of grain and gradually increasing to 1 full cup one time daily. Then Sunday I started giving her 1c in the am 1c in the pm. She already had clumpy poop before I increased though. She is a FF so I didn't want the babies to be too big. She had twins and they were both at around 3 1/2 pounds each. Glad I didn't do too much grain. My buck started next and I noticed it Monday. They have adjoining pastures, but his side has way more grass. I have noticed they are not going through as much hay. I have noticed with him though that he will have clumpy poop for a few days then nothing for weeks, but has not had any issues since November. My other doe just started today. She delivered triplets 4 weeks ago today. She has been getting 1c am and 1c pm with hay and some alfalfa, so no diet change at all for her. I am feeding them Purina Goat Chow with grass hay. She has been doing a lot more grazing. I have a call into our vet about getting some fecals done. Would like to know what is really going on. I want to learn how to do them myself, but need to order a microscope. I had ordered one, but when I got it, it wasn't strong enough to see anything. I followed the directions off fiasco farm. May order another one.
If it is just clumpy poop and everyone seems otherwise healthy, you should probably get a fecal done. Sometimes a change in feed can do that. Any chance they just switched from mostly hay to lush grass or increased grain?
I know this is an older post, but I all of a sudden we have a worm problem. I had one doe back in September who had the same clumpy poop, dog poop looking problem, gave her positive pellet and she cleared up within a few days. We haven't dewormed anyone else since then. I have given them all 2 doses of COWP. One back in November and one just this month. Saturday I noticed that one of my does had dog poop looking poop. I dewormed her with positive pellet. I figured she weighed close to 60 pounds so I gave her 1 1/4 cup. As of today nothing has changed really. Now last night I noticed my buck has the same issue and this am another one of my does has the same issue. Is there a better dewormer I could use or should I just get fecals done? We really haven't had any worm issues, so this is really new to me. I checked everyone's eye lids and they are all super pink. Thanks a lot!
When people say that worms are resistant to X in your area, they don't mean that there is something in air or whatever that causes it, they are assuming that all of the goats in your area are related. In other words, people are buying and selling goats and spreading their parasites across each other's pastures.
If your doe's poop returned to normal, I probably wouldn't worry about getting a fecal done.
She is totally back to normal, praise God. About 2 days after I gave her the Positive Pellets, her stool returned to normal. And I knew worms could become resistant to dewormers but I didn't know they could become resistant just from being in the same area as a popular dewormer! That's crazy! I guess I still have a lot to learn but I'm loving every minute of it. Oh, and I got the fecal vial from my vet but I never actually tested her since they returned to normal after I gave her the Positive Pellets... so should I still do a fecal test?
Hows your doe? How did the fecal check go? Worms, cocci, and too much rich foods/new vegetation are the main reasons for bad poop, so I guess you probably have it under control :-) Worms can be resistant to a wormer used in your area, so yes, you could have resistance despite not having used the wormer before. Hope you got it fixed :-)
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That would be a controversial decision. Some people treat all their kids if one has coccidiosis because in many cases all of the kids do wind up getting it, so it's just easier to start and stop everyone on the same day, rather than spreading it out. All goats have some coccidia in their gut, however, so a lot of people don't worry about it if they aren't showing symptoms of coccidiosis, which is typically diarrhea.
Deborah, our medication for the Coccidiousis is in today, but I only have my buck that's poop is still clumpy. Should I still treat all of them for it, or should I just treat my buck? They are giving me Corid and I asked about giving it to them as a drench instead of in their water and she agreed. Going this afternoon after daycare to pick it up. I am suppose to give it to them once time daily for five days. Thanks
You can add it to their water, but I really prefer to give it to them orally once a day for five days. That way you know they're definitely getting what they're supposed to get. If they're used to cows, I'd say that putting it in their water would be preferred. I've never dosed a cow and hope I never have to! It's probably Sulmet, Albon, or Corid.
We got our fecal test back today and 3 of the goats have Cocidiousis (sp?) and 2 have tape worm. They are treating the 2 with tape worm with Panacur for 3 days and they had to order the medicine for Cocidiousis. She said its a medicine you add to their water. Cannot remember the name off hand. Does that sound right to you Deborah? This vet clinic is awesome, but they do a lot more with horses and cows so I just want to makes sure that I am doing the correct thing.
They are still eating a lot of hay, but they have been grazing more. Plants are starting to sprout since its been in the 70's the last 2 weeks. So much for winter!! LOL The first doe just delivered Sunday night and I had started a week before she delivered giving her 1/2 cup of grain and gradually increasing to 1 full cup one time daily. Then Sunday I started giving her 1c in the am 1c in the pm. She already had clumpy poop before I increased though. She is a FF so I didn't want the babies to be too big. She had twins and they were both at around 3 1/2 pounds each. Glad I didn't do too much grain. My buck started next and I noticed it Monday. They have adjoining pastures, but his side has way more grass. I have noticed they are not going through as much hay. I have noticed with him though that he will have clumpy poop for a few days then nothing for weeks, but has not had any issues since November. My other doe just started today. She delivered triplets 4 weeks ago today. She has been getting 1c am and 1c pm with hay and some alfalfa, so no diet change at all for her. I am feeding them Purina Goat Chow with grass hay. She has been doing a lot more grazing. I have a call into our vet about getting some fecals done. Would like to know what is really going on. I want to learn how to do them myself, but need to order a microscope. I had ordered one, but when I got it, it wasn't strong enough to see anything. I followed the directions off fiasco farm. May order another one.
If it is just clumpy poop and everyone seems otherwise healthy, you should probably get a fecal done. Sometimes a change in feed can do that. Any chance they just switched from mostly hay to lush grass or increased grain?
I know this is an older post, but I all of a sudden we have a worm problem. I had one doe back in September who had the same clumpy poop, dog poop looking problem, gave her positive pellet and she cleared up within a few days. We haven't dewormed anyone else since then. I have given them all 2 doses of COWP. One back in November and one just this month. Saturday I noticed that one of my does had dog poop looking poop. I dewormed her with positive pellet. I figured she weighed close to 60 pounds so I gave her 1 1/4 cup. As of today nothing has changed really. Now last night I noticed my buck has the same issue and this am another one of my does has the same issue. Is there a better dewormer I could use or should I just get fecals done? We really haven't had any worm issues, so this is really new to me. I checked everyone's eye lids and they are all super pink. Thanks a lot!
When people say that worms are resistant to X in your area, they don't mean that there is something in air or whatever that causes it, they are assuming that all of the goats in your area are related. In other words, people are buying and selling goats and spreading their parasites across each other's pastures.
If your doe's poop returned to normal, I probably wouldn't worry about getting a fecal done.
She is totally back to normal, praise God. About 2 days after I gave her the Positive Pellets, her stool returned to normal. And I knew worms could become resistant to dewormers but I didn't know they could become resistant just from being in the same area as a popular dewormer! That's crazy! I guess I still have a lot to learn but I'm loving every minute of it. Oh, and I got the fecal vial from my vet but I never actually tested her since they returned to normal after I gave her the Positive Pellets... so should I still do a fecal test?
Hows your doe? How did the fecal check go? Worms, cocci, and too much rich foods/new vegetation are the main reasons for bad poop, so I guess you probably have it under control :-) Worms can be resistant to a wormer used in your area, so yes, you could have resistance despite not having used the wormer before. Hope you got it fixed :-)
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