for people who love the littlest dairy goats
I keep googling this to no avail. and frustrated. I want to know what all these little acronyms and symbols mean next to all the registered goats names I'm looking at. Is there a page on adga or ags or anywhere that deciphers what these all stand for??
1*M ... CH..*D...TX...what does it mean??
I've been trying to figure the same thing out. There are some codes on AGS website and it was a little helpful, but I would love to know the same thing?
The only half tid bit I can find is this: http://thegoatspot.net/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9302 which only shows me a few that I've wondered about.
I would think this would be on some site that has standards and judging/awards explained but cannot find it.
Since Nigerians are registered with three different registries, there isn't one single place to figure out what everything means.
MCH is Master Champion, which means a doe has won grand three times
ARMCH means a doe is a master champion and has a 305-day milk star
*D is a doe that has a milk star, could be one-day or 305-day
2*D, 3*D, etc indicates the number of generations of milk stars. A 2*D means a doe and her dam both have their milk stars. There are some 9*D or 10*D goats out there, but they're rare, but that means nine or ten generations of does with milk stars.
*S means a buck's dam and his sire's dam both have milk stars
+S means a buck has three daughters with milk stars
E, VG, G+, G are all classification scores. E is excellent and means a goat scored 90+, VG is 85 to 89.9, G+ is 80 to 84.9, etc.
So, ARMCH Antiquity Oaks Carmen *D VG is a goat that is a finished champion with a 305-day milk star and classified as "very good."
Maly PG Annie Oakley 2*D E is a second generation doe that has earned her milk star, and she classified as excellent. The PG in the middle of her name is just part of her name. Quite a few breeders put the buck's initials between the herd name and the goat's name.
CH is a finished champion
*M is a star "milker" -- could be one-day or 305-day
2*M, 3*M, etc means the same as AGS -- multiple generations of milk stars
*B is a buck whose dam and sire's dam have milk stars
SG stands for superior genetics, which I'm not very familiar with because I don't participate in ADGA programs.
PGCH is a "Permanent grand champion"
not sure about milking stars with them, as they really don't do much with milking
TX is just probably part of a goat's name or the herd name. Our herd name is AOF.
Thanks Deborah! You're right I just found out the TX is the buck.
Janel (and whoever else is wondering!:))- I did find a little bit more info 'googling' yesterday, here is what I found (copy/pasted this):
In their pedigrees, the sires are listed on the top and the dams on the bottom; and the goats name is in normal case black lettering. The goat’s name is actually composed of the farm that bred the goat, may include the initials of the goat’s sire, and finally the goat’s actual name. So, for Wild Wind Farm R Bit ‘O’ Honey, the breeding farm was Wild Wind Farm, the sire was Romeo (R), and her actual name is Bit ‘O’ Honey.
They’re registered with both the American Goat Society (AGS) and the American Dairy Goat Association (ADGA) which use different terminology to identify milking and show performance. So, I’ve used red lettering for the AGS performance designations and bold black lettering for the ADGA performance designations. There are more red performance designations because AGS has recognized Nigerian Dwarves for years whereas ADGA has only recently begun recognizing them.
For example purposes I’ll use an ancestor(dam) appearing in both Honey and Tinkers pedigree:
ARMCH Rosasharn TL Arwen 8*D ‘E’
2*M 05-02 90 VEEE
Milk Production Awards (the pluses and stars)
Since Nigerian Dwarves are dairy goats, perhaps the best place to start understanding the pedigree is with the *M(ADGA) or *D (AGS) designations. This indicates that a doe has been tested for milking ability, and has successfully passed the required levels. There are many details associated with earning the star milking designations; however, stars in the pedigree are a good indicator that the goat has potential for good milk production. The star and plus designations are always listed after the goat’s name.
Goats can also earn stars based on their progeny; and this is obviously the only way a buck earns production awards. For AGS, the rules are as follows:
For a *D (star doe), the doe has met the minimum standards for milk production or she has three *D daughters, or two+S sons, or two *D daughters and one +S son.
A 2*D (two star doe) is the daughter of a star doe, and has also met the minimum standards for milk production. The number preceding the star indicates the number of consecutive generations of qualifying does. In the example, 8*Didentifies that Arwen and seven dams before her all qualified for milk performance awards.
A *S (star sire) has a *D dam and has a +S sire or sire with a *D dam.
A +S (plus sire) has at least three *D daughters (from three different does), or has two +S sons, or has two *Ddaughters and one +S son.
A ++S (two plus sire) has at least three *D daughters (from three different does), and at least two +S sons.
A ++*S (two plus star sire) has at least three *D daughters and two +S, and a *D dam
In the ADGA registry, the D’s change to M’s, the S’s change to B’s; and there are small differences in the requirements. In the example, the 2*M means that both Arwen and her dam qualified for milk production awards in the ADGA registry.
Titles (CH, MCH, GCH, ARMCH)
Goats are awarded titles for show wins, and MCH is the title for a Master Champion in AGS while CH is a Champion in ADGA. To reach Champion status a goat must win three shows as champion under at least two different judges. If a goat has achieved Champion status and also has production awards (the pluses and stars), then the goat becomes a Permanent Grand Champion which is denoted by ARMCH for AGS and GCH for ADGA. These designations are placed in front of the goat’s name. If animals have multiple titles (MCH/CH), then they have completed wins at shows for both registries.
SG indicates that a doe or buck is in the top 15% of the production index for that breed, and if they also have Permanent Grand Champion status, the title becomes SGCH.
Classification/Appraisal Scores (The E’s and V’s)
AGS uses a classification system to rate goat conformation which compares the goat to an ideal 100% and assigns a percentage for that goat. The scores are Excellent (90-100), Very Good (85-89.9), Good Plus (80-84.9), Good (70-79.9), Fair (60-69.9), and Poor (under 60). This classification is displayed after the goats name and any production awards. So again using the example, ‘E’ means that Arwen scored excellent in the AGS classification system.
ADGA uses Linear Appraisal to classify goats with the goat being assigned scores for general appearance, dairy character, body capacity, and mammary. The classifications are Excellent (E), Very Good (V), Good Plus (+), Acceptable (A), and Poor (P). So in the example, 05-02 90 VEEE means that at 5 years and 2 months; Arwen was given an overall score of 90 and was considered very good in general appearance but excellent in dairy character, body capacity, and mammary.
Miscellaneous Additional Points of Confusion
Occasionally, an “H” or “h” turns up in a pedigree, and this means the goat was naturally hornless (polled). Also, an “AI” somewhere in the goat’s name means that artificial insemination was used to produce the animal.
There are additional things that can appear on a goat’s pedigree, but I think this covers the most common items. It’s at least a start on getting Bit ‘O’ Honey’s and Tinker Bell’s pedigrees down; I’m missing some of the production and title data from ADGA because I didn’t know to order five generation performance pedigrees, but that information can be added later.
Looks like you found a great source.
I have a condensed version on my website at http://nigeriandwarfgoat.weebly.com/understanding-scores.html
You know I have had a surprisingly hard time learning about coloring and the names for it. AGS has a descent page but it seems to leave out some like 'moon spots' etc. It'd be wonderful if there was a more thorough compilation of pics somewhere showing a few pics of each color name. For example I don't know if AGS even refers to 'holstein' as a color (maybe that's just a fun nickname people use?), or would just call it 'random'. Here are the sites I've found so far with some good stuff:
One site listed these: Color patterns include: Buckskin, Pinto, Holstein, Spots, Solid, Chamoisee & Swiss marked, and Moon Spots.
Pinto is pretty much like a pinto horse. My buck, Sebastian, is pinto
Chamoisee can be a lot of things, but I think it is mostly some shade of brown with black markings on the legs, belly, topline and face. I think if you look up an Oberhasli coloring it would be considered chamoisee or swiss marked? Chamoisee can also be broken by another color.
Buckskin is a solid color over the shoulders and down the sides and broken buckskin is when that color is broken up by other colors. My buck, Ferdinand is broken buckskin (with moonspots)
Moonspots are a very coveted coloring =)
My guess is that Holstein is like the cow.
Spots are pretty self explanatory. =)
Roan sounds to me like the horse, from the description I read.
I know that many people do NOT want agouti colored Nigerians (black and white ticked), since that is what a lot of Pygmy goats are. I'm not sure if it is disallowed or not. This could be changing. I know of one major breeder who is adding a line to her NDs that has this coloring. She is calling it her Alpine Line. She calls it cou clair rather than agouti, so it might not be the same thing.
The sites you listed are really good. I don't know enough to say if they missed any. =)
This website's Genetics link explains a lot about colors:
I am so excited about finding this page that I had to bring it to the forground again for us newbies. I hate to tell you younger folks but the fact is that it is true that some of us have a hard time remembering AND learning ie. remembering what we read now. I just can not seem to get things that I read now to stick like I use to. I did think I was very smart because I could learn/teach myself so much. I love to learn. Now I tell you this in order to express my frustration over this: I DON'T THINK I AM EVER GOING TO LEARN THIS STUFF! Sometimes I think that I have BECOME stupid! I can still remember if I read it 100 times! So thanks for giving us all these good links and now I am going to have to start reading them over&over&over...99, 100!
Oh, Margaret. It's not about remembering, it's about learning too much. We reach an age where there is just so much information stored in our brains that something has to move out for new stuff we are learning. Unlike our computer drives, we cannot get a new one and we don't always have control over what is deleted. But then, even with computers, we sometimes delete things we didn't mean to.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it!