Nigerian Dwarf Dairy Goats

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need help on dehorning paste on thick scur if possible?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Deborah Niemann-Boehle Oct 24. 5 Replies

Hi,I'm not using dehorning paste on a young goat, but what I would like to do is put it on the top of a nigerian duck's thick scur.I've been trying to find information on using dehorning paste…Continue

Measurements for cut out door

Started Mar 26, 2018 0 Replies

I want to cut out an area in the barn so the goats can out out to a fenced in chain link pen area if they need to (they free range during the day though).  Does anyone have any suggestion on the size…Continue

re-breeding question

Started this discussion. Last reply by Trish Jul 12, 2016. 2 Replies

Last year my nigerian dwarf doe had two kids. This year, in January 2016 she aborted three bucklings two weeks before delivery. I saw this stuff hanging out of her and thought oh, she is in…Continue

combing bucks

Started this discussion. Last reply by Trish Oct 19, 2015. 3 Replies

I have two bucks, ages about 2 years... one has horns the other has scurs and have been living together.  I want to put my 6 month old buck, whom I've kept separated with a weather, in with the two…Continue

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Deborah Niemann-Boehle replied to Trish's discussion need help on dehorning paste on thick scur if possible?
"I forgot to mention that when we clip scurs, we do put the bucks on a milk stand so that restrains him. It would be challenging to do it with someone just holding them, but I like Naomi's idea of tethering him to the wall if you don't have…"
Oct 24
Naomi D'Andrea replied to Trish's discussion need help on dehorning paste on thick scur if possible?
"Can you restrain him somehow? Do you have a stanchion? Or maybe a short tether attached to a ring in the wall. You or someone (can you get help?) could sandwich him against the wall. Hope you get this resolved! Good luck!"
Oct 24
Deborah Niemann-Boehle replied to Trish's discussion need help on dehorning paste on thick scur if possible?
"As I said, it did not even burn through the skin in half an hour. Plus, the reason we held them for that whole time is because if it's burning, they will want to rub their head on something. Goats have been known to wind up blind because they…"
Oct 23
Trish replied to Trish's discussion need help on dehorning paste on thick scur if possible?
"Unfortunately I can't do it by myself and hold him at the same time. I don't have the strength, ergo the paste...thought it would burn through a bit so it could snap off as it is caustic?"
Oct 23
Deborah Niemann-Boehle replied to Trish's discussion need help on dehorning paste on thick scur if possible?
"Dehorning paste would do nothing to a scur. Even though it is not a full horn, it is horn material, and dehorning paste wouldn't eliminate it. It actually does not even work to disbud goats. I tried it on two kids about 16 years ago. They…"
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need help on dehorning paste on thick scur if possible?

Hi,I'm not using dehorning paste on a young goat, but what I would like to do is put it on the top of a nigerian duck's thick scur.I've been trying to find information on using dehorning paste without success. I have some dehorning paste I wanted to use on nigerian dwarf buck who has thick scurs. I don't know how this stuff works so I"m reaching out to find reliable information. I don't know how dehorning paste goes through a thick scur. What I want to do is put some on the top of the scur…See More
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At 5:22pm on October 1, 2012, Heather Vernon said…

Wow! That is horrible.. I have seen castration on horses.. but they knock them out first… I can’t imagine him being awake for that..  Trust me Banding is the way to go... easy.. pretty much pain free (everything goes numb in just a few min.. no crying either).. and no blood. They walk around stiff legged for about 20 min.. Then act like nothing happened at all. It's also really easy to do and just takes a few seconds.

If you’re interested here is a video on banding : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBeqRTBalto

I prefer to have them setting up in someone’s lap (like a human baby) so I can see the teats and hairline while doing it.

Don't let that experience keep you from getting wethers.. They are the best.

Also as a side note.. we like to band them a week before weaning that way they are still with mommy.. the comforting the mothers give during that first hour seems to really help the babies.

 

At 2:06pm on October 1, 2012, Heather Vernon said…

I do give the Tentus Toxoid to the Does.. it's in the CD&T.. Once yearly.. Then before breeding.. and again at 4 weeks to due date.

Bad vets.. the lament of all goat owners. I am very lucky that my horse vet (who is awesome!) lets me tell her what I need for the goats and why and she will call in a prescription for me. In fact she has called me a few times now while out with other peoples goats looking for advice.

How did Bens castration get done? We band ours and have had no issues.. Much less needing to put medication on the area. Sounds like they cut them off??

Giving you fair warning.. Goats are like Pringles (Slogan: Once you pop you just can’t stop).. We started with two as well.. just to do some 4H shows with my daughter.. Now we are up to 11 goats and will be breeding Miss Hawaii in November. :o)

 

 

At 1:21pm on October 1, 2012, Heather Vernon said…

Sorry this turned out longer then I thought it would!! HAHA!!

A Nigerian Dairy goat is a miniature dairy goat with a more elegant structure.. Where as a African Pygmy goat is a miniature meat goat who are bred to be cobby and heavy boned.

I grain my goats once a day.. I use  DuMor Goat that I get at Tractor Supply (1cup)..  Noble Goat is fine.. . Mostly you want to look at the contents of the feed. After pulling it up online the Noble and DuMor are fairly equal with some minor differences. I also feed my goats “Calf Mana”.. But again I have pygmies so I want them to be bulky(1 Cup Bucks – ½ cup wether/does).

The alfalfa I feed about 1 flake a day in a pen with 2 goats. Yes mine also waste most of it. They really only like the leafy part of the alfalfa. In the evenings I will dump the remaining alfalfa into my horses stall. (She is not so picky). Again I want my goats bulky.. so I give them as much alfalfa as they want.

I give the CD&T once a year to our wethers.. The does will get the CD&T again before breeding then again 4 weeks before kidding (due date). The Bucks also get it before breeding season.. I normally do my yearly in September so that everyone is done at the same time so I don’t get confused. Plus breeding season is normally October/November.

I also worm my goats in September and March (Spring & Fall).. I also give my goats BoSe when I worm.. and Does will also get BoSe at the 4 weeks to due date (When I give the CD&T booster). In NM we are Selenium deficient.. That is why I give it.. (Needs a vet prescription).

Then minerals.. There are sooo many kinds of minerals to pick.. any goat person you talk to will have their favorite one.  I keep a mineral block in each pen (I like “Billy Block – Berry Bush”). I also feed Manna Pro Goat Minerals with their feed. My friend that was a Nigerian judge feeds Purina 12:12 horse minerals (keeps in pan in pen for free choice eating). For whatever reason my goats did not like it… so I started using the Manna Pro pellets in the feed.

If you have not yet been to the Fias Co Farms website I would highly recommend it. http://fiascofarm.com/sitemap.htm  I love the fact she gives several options for each issue/treatment/medicine/vaccination/etc.  I still refer to this site when something comes up that I have not dealt with before.

Let me know if you have any more questions.. Hope this info was helpful!!

At 9:21am on October 1, 2012, Heather Vernon said…

Hi Trish.. I only have Pygmies.. but they are fairly close to the Nigerians. I also have a friend that lives in Albuquerque who was a Nigerian Judge and breeder until recently (She is now only doing pygmy goats). I am happy to help with anything you might need. If I don't know the answer I can always call my friend. I have been told that Nigerians are WAY easier then Pygmies. :o)

 
 
 


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