Nigerian Dwarf Dairy Goats

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Deborah Niemann-Boehle
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Deborah Niemann-Boehle replied to James Tinker's discussion cut hoof in quick
"Remove the bandage immediately. There is one thing that has zero controversy -- you never bandage livestock injuries. It leads to infection. I know it sounds crazy, but I can't think of anything that has ever been bandaged. They don't even…"
Deborah Niemann-Boehle replied to James Tinker's discussion cut hoof in quick
"That is entirely up to you, as the whole topic of vaccines is somewhat controversial. Some people say that whenever there is any kind of cut or broken skin, you should do a booster. If the goat isn't vaccinated, you'd give the antitoxin…"
Deborah Niemann-Boehle replied to Judy H's discussion buying teat cups
"I have the ND inflations from Hoegger, and I've never had a problem with them working. I'd imagine they're similar to the ones Caprine sells."
Deborah Niemann-Boehle replied to Julia @Woody Glen Farm's discussion Clumpy poo-- brown stomach worm?
"It could still be worms, if it's been a few weeks since you gave her the COWP. Clumpy poop is usually either worms or too much grain, and I know you wouldn't be purposely giving her too much grain. Any chance she accidentally got into it?…"
Deborah Niemann-Boehle replied to Julia @Woody Glen Farm's discussion Clumpy poo-- brown stomach worm?
"You could try COWP first. That's what I usually do if a doe has mild symptoms of parasites."
Deborah Niemann-Boehle replied to Katharine Norton's discussion Tropical grassland management
"You really should try to keep them off a piece of land for about 6 weeks minimum to avoid parasite issues, but if they aren't eating the grass shorter than 6 inches, that also helps. The larvae don't have a means of locomotion, but they…"
Deborah Niemann-Boehle replied to Barbara Jean Rondine's discussion ilking issues and weaning
"Once you get the hang of milking, it will take less than five minutes per goat. You are asking a LOT for a goat to stand still for 45 minutes! Even if you meant that it is 45 minutes total for two goats, that's still more than 20 minutes per…"
Aug 20
Deborah Niemann-Boehle replied to Bev Sieminski, Winding Rvr Farm's discussion Adorable bottle baby
"Awesome! Those little ones always steal your heart."
Aug 20
Deborah Niemann-Boehle replied to Stacy Casperson's discussion Newbie! ND vs Alpine/Nubian cross?
"You should ask to try the milk from this goat for yourself. It tastes quite a bit different, and my children didn't like it. However, some people do."
Aug 19
Deborah Niemann-Boehle replied to The Fen's discussion polled doe with no kids but with milk
"If people know a little bit about polled goats, they sometimes make a lot of incorrect assumptions. The only thing polled has to do with fertility is that if you breed polled to polled, you have a higher rate of hermaphrodites, and if a goat is a…"
Aug 19
Deborah Niemann-Boehle replied to The Fen's discussion polled doe with no kids but with milk
"Being polled does NOT cause a doe to miscarry. The first five years we had goats, we had horrible fertility problems. Every year about a third of our goats didn't get pregnant or stay pregnant. We lost kids at every stage of pregnancy, and it…"
Aug 19
Deborah Niemann-Boehle replied to Izzy Kosice's discussion we had SIX babies born to 2 first fresheners over 10 hrs last night HELP
"Yes, your plan sounds good. Most kids do not take to the bottle naturally, so you do have to pretty much force it on them in the beginning. Even when completely bottle-feeding kids, you only have to do it four times a day after they're a few…"
Aug 18
Deborah Niemann-Boehle replied to Jabe Thomas's discussion How To Stop Milking A Doe
"You can just let the kids continue to nurse. They'll gradually nurse less, so she'll gradually produce less. Eventually either mom or babies will decide to stop nursing. No need to do anything special for breeding. Some people talk about…"
Aug 18
Deborah Niemann-Boehle replied to Izzy Kosice's discussion we had SIX babies born to 2 first fresheners over 10 hrs last night HELP
"If I were in that situation with first fresheners and a tiny kid, I would absolutely take the tiny kid and bottlefeed it. FFs don't make that much milk, and a tiny kid has everything going against it anyway. They don't usually make it more…"
Aug 18
Deborah Niemann-Boehle replied to Cherissa Woudenberg's discussion Double registering/re-registering
"You pay only the re-registration fee if you own an AGS animal that you want to register with ADGA. The transfer fee is only for ADGA registered animals that are being transferred from one owner to another. However, I agree with Michael that…"
Aug 17
Deborah Niemann-Boehle replied to Judy H's discussion buying teat cups
"I totally understand your situation. I gave myself carpal tunnel when we built our house ten years ago. It was so bad that I couldn't milk or even trim hooves because I couldn't squeeze with my right hand. After about six months, it was…"
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Pine bark as a dewormer

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For those of you interested in natural remedies, check out this study on pine bark:!pinebark/coo1Continue

Tags: coccidia, worms, parasites

Homesteading group on Facebook

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If any of you are interested in extending the online conversation to homesteading topics in general, I wanted to let you know that I have a Facebook group called Thrifty Homesteading. Click on this…Continue

Goat mineral basics

Started this discussion. Last reply by Trish Mar 8. 22 Replies

Hi everyone,Since goat mineral issues come up so often, I've decided to create a post with basic mineral info. Here is a link to an excerpt from Raising Goats Naturally:…Continue

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Hi everyone!I wanted to let you know that I'm going to start doing homesteading webinars! People have been asking me to do them for years, and I finally decided that I'm just going to do it! You all…Continue

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At 7:59am on April 28, 2015, Paul Badon said…

Thank You for your invitation to join here....I hope to learn and put into practice much of what I learn .

At 3:28pm on March 4, 2015, Ellen Petrick said…

I am SO excited to have found this community.  My brother got me your book as a sort of joke because I kept talking about how I wanted to move out to the country and raise goats - What Luck he picked YOUR book!  It was perfect.  I really wish I could come to your class this weekend, but I have to go to a fitness conference instead.  So I will plan to sign up for the homestead conference and the goat class labor day weekend as soon as registration opens.

At 7:42pm on September 27, 2014, M. K. said…

Rabbits are definately happier in a larger pen, although, my angoras never seemed particularly athletic.  Compared with other breeds, they sat around a lot.  I keep my rabbits in 4 foot by 8 foot wire pens set on the ground.   The walk-in pens look like little houses.  They  have tarps over the pitched roofs, and  wire floors.   The pens are all kept within the perimeter of a solar charged electronet fence for predator protection.  My charger and fence are from Premier. They are usually a good company to work with.

At 6:44pm on September 27, 2014, Myra Isaac said…
Thanks! Wow that's really sad! I recently got a Great Pyr LGD puppy to hopefully help with our predator issues. He comes from working bloodlines and both parents are guardian dogs as well as grandparents so hopefully he'll be up to the job. I want to build a hutch for my rabbits that has access to some dirt and grass. Completely enclosed with wire buried underneath it or else really deep around the edges. What did you use? I hate having her in that tiny cage even tho I know other people do it. It just seems So tiny and I don't want her to be miserable!
At 2:45pm on September 27, 2014, Myra Isaac said…
Thanks! My new girl was under the weather the other day and I was really worried about wool block. I'm making sure she has some good Timothy hay to much on if she wants now and she seems to be fine. What kind of cages or hutches did you use when you had them? I currently have a wire cage that I put a piece of ply wood in for her to sit on so it's not so hard on her feet. She really likes that board! What did you feed yours?
At 6:50pm on September 22, 2014, Myra Isaac said…
Hi Deborah, I recently purchased an angora rabbit for wool. I have your Homesteading book already but was wondering if you knew of a good Angora care/raising book? Seems like I can't find much online but I probably don't know where to look. Do you know of any good websites? I'd like to have a book with some in depth care/health info for angoras.
At 6:25pm on June 11, 2014, Dave Marschang said…

yeah I have a hell of a time on here knowing when someones replied to something

At 8:56pm on June 9, 2014, Dave Marschang said…

the lamancha doe is very gentle with ginny, and ginny actually seems to enjoy the attention. she appears to be a very gentle giant and even against the other lamancha does her threats seem pathetically gentle. and yes we do want a buck, I don't know that as beginners we need a $600 buck to start. your worst quality buck is 100 times better than the barnyard mutts we have around here so something on the cheaper side will work for us. what do you have available? you website gave me the impression all bucks were sold.


At 7:38pm on June 3, 2014, Dave Marschang said…

well a 6 yr old Lamancha has apparently taking a likin to Ginny, she follows her around pushing her across the stall with her head, then she will stick her head under Ginnys backend and lift her in the air. Not sure what any of that means but Ginny just stands there patiently and takes it. everyone is still doing good and Ginnys diarrhea appears to have gotten better. we have plenty of room at this farm for a buck and will be seriously looking to purchase one soon, not sure if you have any available or not but, will probably be calling soon.

At 10:00am on June 1, 2014, Dave Marschang said…

oh my god! Gertrude never shuts up! typical female......anyway thought I would let you know the girls are fitting in just fine, they get to meet the lamanchas today. Ginny has a little bit of diarrhea. we gave her probios yesterday so we will see what happens. while neither will take treats from us yet, Ginny is much more skittish than Gertrude so it makes sense to us that she would be the one with diarrhea. we don't think its anything to worry about yet.

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Farm Crawl day 2

Yesterday was the first day of the Fourth Annual Livingston County Farm crawl, and the weather was about as close to perfect as it could ever be. 

Today is day two, and it started out raining! The rain is gone, though, and the sun is coming out, so I think we'll be fine the rest of the day. 

If you're in the area, you can head over to see the newly hatched chicks. Mike will be doing a cow milking demonstration at 3:00.

This might actually be the last year. A couple of the farmers are talking about moving away, and the others are just getting tired of doing it. 

Who's my daddy?

It's Sunday, which has become my day for genealogy research. Anyone who has ever delved into their genealogy knows that you could spend all day, every day working on your family tree, so I quickly decided that I should isolate my efforts to Sundays.

I originally got interested in learning more about my genes a few months ago as I started dealing with my health problems. They say that about a third of autoimmune disease comes from your genes and the other two-thirds comes from environmental triggers and lifestyle choices, so I thought it might be helpful if I knew exactly how much the cards were stacked against me. Someone told me about, so I went online to find out how it works.

One of the first things I discovered is that lots of people use the service to find birth parents. Although I was adopted at birth, my parents kept in touch with my mother. However, she had no idea who my father was, and I had always accepted the fact that I would never know ... until now!

The only thing I've ever known about my father is that he was in the Navy and in Washington DC in May 1962. He was probably 18 or 19 years old, meaning that he would now be in his early 70s, assuming he is still alive.

So, a few months ago, I spit into a test tube and sent it off for analysis, and a few weeks later, I discovered I had 935 cousins! Wow! Unfortunately almost all of them are third cousins or even more distantly related, but to go from having almost no relatives in the world to 935 was an amazing discovery! Via email, I met one particularly knowledgeable and helpful cousin in England who told me that if I could get my mum to do the test, I'd be able to split my list of cousins into maternal and paternal side, so I contacted her, and she agreed. I was thinking that the 935 would be cut in half, but it hasn't been quite that helpful.

As it turns out, only 125 of those cousins are related to me through her. The rest are related to me through my father! Holy smokes! That would explain why almost all of the surnames listed by my DNA relatives are English -- Smith, Jones, Lewis, Parker, Wells, and so on. I'm assuming this is because her family came here from Norway and Sweden at the end of the 19th century, whereas my father's family is almost entirely British and obviously came to the US in the 1700s and earlier, so there are simply a lot more of them in this country to get tested. Although testing is available in northern European countries, this is a pretty popular American thing to do. (Plus, there are a lot more people in this country.)

I even have some African DNA in me, which probably means that a couple hundred years ago I had a great, great, great, great ... great grandmother and grandfather who were slave and slave owner. I think I remember reading somewhere that one of Thomas Jefferson's children with slave Sally Hemming had skin that was pale enough that he was able to live his life as a white person, which obviously would have been the case with my ancestor.

Some of my cousins go back to British royalty and one to Pocahontas. That doesn't mean that I do, because it could be a different branch of their family tree than the one we share in common, but I am even more excited than ever to figure out where I fit in the world.

The funniest thing about all of this is that I've been a huge anglophile my entire life. I've visited England twice, and the only TV show I've watched in the last 15 years is Downton Abbey. I've been drinking hot tea since I was a teenager in Texas, and I was drinking it with milk it, which is a very British thing to do. I didn't even know anyone who drank hot tea, much less tea with milk in it back then! I don't even know where I got the idea.

Years ago, I said that since I had no idea who my father was, I was going to make one up. He was British, and his ancestor came to this country because he was the second or third son of an aristocrat, and since he would not be inheriting his father's land and title, he decided to come to America to find his fortune. I needed an excuse for my expensive taste, and royal blood seemed like the most obvious explanation. It's pretty funny that even part of it has been proven true -- his family did come from England! I'm really looking forward to finding out about the rest of it!

It's not cute or sexy or fun

Here is something no one ever talks about on the homestead ... driveways. I'll never forget the day we moved out here, I walked around feeling like the queen of a small kingdom! We had 32 acres! The largest yard we'd ever had in the past was a mere half an acre, so 32 acres was huge!

Well, once the euphoria wore off, I realized that just like the ruler of any small kingdom, the owner of a small farm has to worry about keeping their roads in good repair. And we've not been so good about that the last few years. For at least two or three years, I've been sporadically trying to find someone to deliver more road rock out here. Finally, I got a recommendation from a friend!

So last Wednesday, we had road rock delivered. The road rock guy was surprised to learn that we didn't have a tractor or a skid loader to spread the rock. So, that meant that it was all spread by a human being -- mostly Mike. Want to know how he stays so thin and muscular? Working on the homestead is a great fitness plan.

We asked the rock guy to "tailgate it," which meant he was supposed to raise the bed of the dump truck and evenly spread the gravel on the driveway as he drove forward. It didn't work as well as we'd hoped. This pile of rock was knee high.

But, that's enough chatter! You really can't appreciate the gravity of this situation unless you see the before and after pictures. I don't think you really appreciate the top photo unless you know that it looked like this before the rock was delivered and spread ...

And you can really appreciate the improvement when driving on the driveway following a rain. Oh, yeah! Life will be so much better next spring!

Scaling back in one area of my life

If you've been hanging around here for very long, you know that I've produced most of my own body care products since 2003. I've even sold my own goat milk soap and a few other body care products. But we can't do it all, and I totally understand that some people don't even want to make their own soap or body butter. But you do want natural products with ingredients that you understand -- products that you could make yourself, if only you had the time and inclination. That's why I fell in love with Poofy Organics. Their ingredient lists are very similar to the ones I've used when making my own personal care products, which means they are all natural, and most are organic.

I've also come to the conclusion that I can't do it all. For years, I've been saying that I'm going to create my own all-natural version of Tiger Balm, and that still hasn't happened. Tiger Balm has petroleum jelly in it, which is (as the name implies) a petroleum product, and I hate the idea of slathering that on my skin. Biofreeze has green dye in it, which again, I hate using. Poofy, however, has an organic liniment called RUB-ology, which is made with beeswax and sunflower oil and essential oils and NO artificial colors -- or anything artificial, for that matter.

I looked for a VERY long time to find cosmetics that were non-toxic. If you've read my book Ecothrifty, you know that most cosmetics do contain toxic chemicals, including many that are carcinogenic. And that is one reason I only wear make-up about three times a year, usually only when I know there will be many photo-ops through the day, such as one of my children's graduation ceremonies. Back when I was doing regular television appearances to promote my books, I tried to not think about the chemicals in the make-up, and I'd wash it off my face as soon as I was off camera!

Anyway, as part of my scaling back -- and in an attempt to encourage others to trade in their toxic products for those that are truly toxin-free -- I've decided to become a Poofy GUIDE, which means I'm selling it. How is that scaling back, you ask? Because I'm not making my own AND selling it. This actually eliminates about 80% of the work! I might continue making my own goat milk soap, but as for the rest of the body care products, I've realized that I just need to stop trying to do everything. So, if you'd like to check out their products and see why I'm so excited, click here to visit the main website. And if you'd like to use a quick order form after checking out some of the products, click here.

Chick days!

I know most people get chicks in the spring, but when I'm getting chicks for breeding purposes, I like getting them in late summer or early fall so that they can mature over the fall and winter and be ready to lay in early spring. Ultimately we get a lot more eggs the first year by doing it this way.

Yesterday we received a shipment of 26 Delaware chicks. (Yes, they were sent through the U.S. Postal Service. It usually works out fine because chicks don't need anything to eat or drink the first day or two after hatching.) They are one of my favorite breeds, and I'm going to have some fun crossing them with barred rocks and New Hampshires, which will be arriving in another month.

They're straight run, which means we have no idea what we have for cockerels and pullets. The pullets will grow up to be laying hens, and most of the cockerels will become chicken dinner around November and December. Since it will probably only be about 12 or 13 males, and we'll keep two for breeding that will only leave about 10 for dinner, which isn't enough to drive two hours to the processor, so Mike will butcher them as we need them over the winter.

We put them in an old water trough for the first week or so until we're sure they know where the water and feed are located, and they understand that being under the heat lamp keeps them warm. (That's why the pictures are pink; the heat lamp is red.)

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