Ok, I am so new at this. I have one goat who kid last year and this year with no problems. Now I have a FF and things just seems to be different from the first goat. This one has been alone for almost 4 days now. She is my loud goat and has only made a few sounds. She isn't interested in food really. This morning I witnessed her pushing, a little red tinge discharge/liquid coming out then she lays down again. She is also pushing when laying down. Do I do something? She is not puffy in the back like my other doe was. How can I tell if she needs my help?
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I am so sorry for your loss. I will say that you do what seems best at the time, but as you say, follow your gut. Last year, the vet told me if the first one is born (difficultly and while I was on the phone to him), the others will be. Eight hours later, I took her to the vet. Long story short, we lost two of the four, two clearly because I waited, one because of an infection that undoubtedly started because of the difficult delivery circumstances. The vet told me while I was on my way there that they were probably all dead at this point. Ironically, the only one who survived is the first one delivered there.
What I am saying is that even if you talk to a vet and describe everything and he/she asks questions, you can still make the wrong decision. In my case, it was to follow what the vet said at midnight on a Friday night. I don't know if the other two he delivered would have survived but at least one might have since the placenta had torn loose and the other would not have been so traumatized from the long labor, etc. We have to try to not second-guess ourselves and follow our guts and know that after the fact we made the best decision at the time with the knowledge at the moment the decision was made. My not following my gut cost my little doe three of her four babies.
I am so very sorry you also lost your doe. {{{ Shannon }}}
So sorry you lost your doe. I also lost my girl this spring with a bad kidding. It is so hard. Still brings me to tears when I think of her. We surely get attached to our little ones.
I am so sorry! It is so sad when things go badly with our goats. Unfortunately communication through the Internet is limited so much. Your original post sounded like she was in early labor. When you said she wasn't interested in food, I thought you meant that morning, which is normal for a doe in early labor. Goats need to eat almost continually because they have a rumen. Any goat that is refusing food, even for a few hours, is a worrisome situation, regardless of whether or not they are pregnant. When a goat is in labor, ignoring food usually means they'll kid within 2-3 hours. Don't ever worry that you are posting too much info when you put a question on here. More details are always helpful. Hugs!
Oh Shannon, I'm so so sorry! My heart aches for you. Yes, you're right, if you are feeling like something is wrong, it probably is. I went through something like this last year and I "knew" something was wrong and it was. No one can "see" and "feel" what's happening except you because you're there. Hugs to you.
Everything about this was wrong and I really should have gone with my gut and called the vet! No, if you question yourself you are doing it for a reason and you should act upon it... Call the vet! We had to make some very tough choices last night! The fetus was not viable and hadn't been for at least 24 hours the vet said. She could tell because she was pulling hair out. Anyhow, my little doe was just too little for kidding. She was 3 but too small. She had an accidental meeting with the buck and that lead us to recent events. So, the fetus was breech, the doe would not dilate, the vet could not turn the fetus around or at least get back legs in position to pull breech. She had been off feed for a few days, very little if any water, so she was weak from labor and nutrients. The vet was doing everything she could to save our beloved doe. The fetus needed to come out and it wasn't happening, there were a couple procedures attempted. It was questionable if she would have made it through a c-section. I couldn't do that to my doe. We had to make the tough decision and say our goodbyes. She was at such high risk for infection. So, my lesson learned if you question, seriously question yourself and what is happening act upon it! You are questioning for a reason!!
You have not described anything worrisome. Usually I say that if you're asking, then she's fine. There is USUALLY no question when a goat needs help. My philosophy is, if the goat is happy, I am happy. When is her due date?
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{{{ Shannon }}}
I am so sorry for your loss. I will say that you do what seems best at the time, but as you say, follow your gut. Last year, the vet told me if the first one is born (difficultly and while I was on the phone to him), the others will be. Eight hours later, I took her to the vet. Long story short, we lost two of the four, two clearly because I waited, one because of an infection that undoubtedly started because of the difficult delivery circumstances. The vet told me while I was on my way there that they were probably all dead at this point. Ironically, the only one who survived is the first one delivered there.
What I am saying is that even if you talk to a vet and describe everything and he/she asks questions, you can still make the wrong decision. In my case, it was to follow what the vet said at midnight on a Friday night. I don't know if the other two he delivered would have survived but at least one might have since the placenta had torn loose and the other would not have been so traumatized from the long labor, etc. We have to try to not second-guess ourselves and follow our guts and know that after the fact we made the best decision at the time with the knowledge at the moment the decision was made. My not following my gut cost my little doe three of her four babies.
I am so very sorry you also lost your doe. {{{ Shannon }}}
So sorry for your loss, Shannon!!
I'm so sorry, Shannon! Hugs, hugs, hugs.
So sorry you lost your doe. I also lost my girl this spring with a bad kidding. It is so hard. Still brings me to tears when I think of her. We surely get attached to our little ones.
I am so sorry! It is so sad when things go badly with our goats. Unfortunately communication through the Internet is limited so much. Your original post sounded like she was in early labor. When you said she wasn't interested in food, I thought you meant that morning, which is normal for a doe in early labor. Goats need to eat almost continually because they have a rumen. Any goat that is refusing food, even for a few hours, is a worrisome situation, regardless of whether or not they are pregnant. When a goat is in labor, ignoring food usually means they'll kid within 2-3 hours. Don't ever worry that you are posting too much info when you put a question on here. More details are always helpful. Hugs!
Oh Shannon, I'm so so sorry! My heart aches for you. Yes, you're right, if you are feeling like something is wrong, it probably is. I went through something like this last year and I "knew" something was wrong and it was. No one can "see" and "feel" what's happening except you because you're there. Hugs to you.
How is she doing now?
You have not described anything worrisome. Usually I say that if you're asking, then she's fine. There is USUALLY no question when a goat needs help. My philosophy is, if the goat is happy, I am happy. When is her due date?