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  • Kelly Wood August 15, 2012 at 8:47am

    I guess what I meant to ask is if the tapeworm in a goat looks like the one in a dog.

    Anyways, I have decided to go ahead and do a white wormer also just in case. Since she may be PG I know not to use Valbazen so that leaves me with Safeguard. I have the liquid safeguard for goats. Do I follow the dosing directions on the bottle? And do I give it 3 days in a row?

     

    Thanks again Deborah!

  • Deborah Niemann-Boehle August 12, 2012 at 10:06pm

    Haemonchus contortus is called barberpole worm because it is striped red and white like a barberpole. A mature HC is only about 3/4 inch, so I'm not sure how well you can see any detail with the naked eye. I don't think I know anyone with goats who has actually ever seen them, and I've only seen photos myself -- greatly enlarged!

    Goat and dog tape worms are different species but distantly related, so they're not exactly the same.

  • Kelly Wood August 12, 2012 at 8:54pm

    Hi Deborah, I am assuming tape worms in goats are the same ones found in dogs, right? If so, then what I saw were not tape worms. They almost resembled maggots, but they seemed to stay in a "C" shape. The one I found before the wormer was still alive, but the ones I found after the wormer were dead. yes, I touched them. LOL Thoughts?

  • Deborah Niemann-Boehle August 12, 2012 at 6:38pm

    Tapes don't always show up in fecals. In fact, I've had more than one vet tell me that goats are not always shedding worm eggs in their poop, so although a fecal can confirm the presence of worms, it can't rule it out entirely. And I experienced this first hand with a buck that I had six or seven years ago. He had classic symptoms of worms, but we had two negative fecals, so I took him to U of I thinking he had some horrid disease, and their fecal showed several different types of worms! If the worms looked like grains of rice or pasta, they were probably tapes, which are expelled intermittently from any animal that is infested. They don't usually make goats as sick as other worms, although a severe case can include diarrhea. One vet I know who raises kiko goats says that tape worms are worse for the mental health of the goat owner than the physical health of the goat, and I'd have been inclined to agree until this summer. I've had a couple of kids with really bad problems.

  • Kelly Wood August 12, 2012 at 3:31pm

    I did see the worms in her poo so I took a sample in to the vet to find out exactly what they were and the vet said all she saw were the Barberpole worms.

  • Deborah Niemann-Boehle August 12, 2012 at 1:41pm

    If you saw worms in her poop, she probably has tape worms, and ivomec does not kill them. Goats will pass sections of tapeworms even when they have not been dewormed. You need a white dewormer to kill them -- one dose of Valbazen or three doses of Safeguard is what most people use.

  • Kelly Wood August 11, 2012 at 4:45pm

    No resistance yet....looks like it did work though like you said. I noticed her passing some dead worms yesterday. YEAH!

  • Deborah Niemann-Boehle August 11, 2012 at 8:21am

    Ivermectin works fine for barberpoles as long as you don't have a resistance issue.

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