Sevin dust on pregnant/lactating does

So tell me if I screwed up. All my does have mites. I dusted the two that aren't pregnant/lactating and looked at the one with week old twins and the one due in seven-10 days and they had them too. I put some on the two of them around their neck and top line but nowhere near the udders. Are they okay or do I need to go give them a bath like, now!

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  • Good, I am glad you did that Lori! I bet it was REAL fun! I can't wait! I will see what that is like soon!

  • I have given everyone a bath and put DE on the babies, that was an experience! First time giving my goats a bath :)
  • When I had the parasite information in my book reviewed by parisitologist Steve Hart, PhD, at Langston University, he told me that vets used to tell people to use Sevin dust many years ago. Apparently this is where the practice got started. However, it is illegal for a vet to tell someone that, and if you read the information from the manufacturer on the label, it says it is not to be used on people or animals. Using Sevin on animals is an unapproved off-label use, and as such, it is illegal.

    It is also also a known carcinogen, which I do not take lightly. Farmers and children of farmers have much higher rates of several types of cancer than the general public, and farmers who do not use protective gear when using pesticides have even higher rates. Our skin is the largest organ of our body, and many drugs are now administered transdermally (pain meds, hormones, etc). Our skin absorbs whatever is on it, and it goes directly into our bloodstream. Because Sevin is illegal to use on animals, there is no milk withdrawal time established, but personally I wouldn't be drinking their milk for a very long time -- especially NOT giving it to small children who are still growing. (I know two children of farmers who've had cancer, including one right now.) Keep in mind that the manufacturer of Sevin recommends that you wash off (for at least 15 minutes) any that comes in contact with skin. If you don't wash it off your goats, it will be in contact with their skin, and the chemicals will continue to be absorbed indefinitely.

  • Thanks everyone!
  • Okay, so I went and checked everyone this morning. All seem fine. I dug around and found my food grade DE and dusted the whole barn and put new straw on top. I also lightly dusted the kids cause they have them too. The dust is almost gone on the two moms but I gave everyone a really good brushing and wiped down the does with a wet washcloth. My breeder told me that she applies sevin to her herd lightly with a small handful placed in an old stocking and rubbed over the hair, just enough to get a light coating and only from the neck down to the rump about halfway down the sides. I did it last year and everyone was fine but didn't know about the moms. Now that I have found my DE I will use that instead.
  • Here is the label:

    http://www.gardentech.com/pdf/2012-Product-Labels/Sevin-1lb-5-Dust-...

    And I just re-read your post. If you can see crawling things, that would be lice, not mites, and Patty is correct that ivermectin pour-on or Eprinex would work to kill them. It is also safe to use on kids, although I would probably wait to use it until a few days after the Sevin to make sure they're not going to be overloaded with toxins. Lice are nothing to panic about. They are not going to hurt the goats short term, and they do not infect humans.

  • The label says to wash for 15-20 minutes with plenty of water. I can't attach the PDF I have, but I also found this one online:

    http://www.gardentech.com/pdf/msds/GT-Sevin-5-Dust-October-2011.pdf

    If that isn't the product you have, here are labels for the others, but the advice is pretty similar:

    http://www.gardentech.com/msds.asp

  • Yes, that was a bad idea. The label on Sevin dust says it is NOT to be used on any type of animals. It is a garden insecticide ONLY. I'm  honestly not sure if getting them wet would make it worse. I'll try to find the label.

  • You can try Ivermectin pour on and see if that gets rid of the little buggers.  It is supposed to get rid of sucking and biting like and sarcoptic mange, so hopefully that would work.  I don't know anything about the Sevin dust though, so can't help you there.  Best wishes of beating the little beasts! :)

  • So the week old twins are covered in mites too What do I use on them, DE? I can also put de in the barn tomorrow but will it be effective on the babies? HELP!
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