Have to share this. We all know things could go array but just don't think it really will. Just read on another site, someone with standard goats, dosed her goat kids per her vet, with Mu-Se. She had 4, it killed everyone of them. I have vaguely heard of the product. Do your research I guess. She overdosed according to the brand dosage, but was following her vets instruction.
Sad and maddening!
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Sweetlix Meat Maker minerals have 0 protein. You must be looking at a protein pail, not a simple mineral. I don't recommend protein pails. It's a very expensive way to get protein into your goats.
Melissa Johnson said:
Regarding the sweetlix, I saw it has 22% protein., which surprised me. I thought the calcium/phosphorus amounts would've been much
Sweetlix Meat Maker minerals have 0 protein. You must be looking at a protein pail, not a simple mineral. I don't recommend protein pails. It's a very expensive way to get protein into your goats.
Melissa Johnson said:
Regarding the sweetlix, I saw it has 22% protein., which surprised me. I thought the calcium/phosphorus amounts would've been much greater.
I give very little in meds to my animals (or to myself) and try to do a little computer research before I give things if I am doing it. I read somewhere else that a vet gave a women's animals shots of copper sulfate for a shortage and she lost 4. Another tragic mistake. Vets that do that must not keep up on things. My vet cringes on any copper being given -even the bolus. I do give that if needed though but not as often as I hear some breeders do.
I said above I don't use BoSe but I do keep the selenium gel on hand in case a lamb or kid looks a little weak but haven't needed that this year at all so far.
Regarding the sweetlix, I saw it has 22% protein., which surprised me. I thought the calcium/phosphorus amounts would've been much greater.
Deborah Niemann-Boehle said:
The selenium usually goes down very slowly unless the Sweetlix runs out. Then I see the selenium visibly going down.
Winding River Farm (Bev) said:
Deborah - do you see your girls using the free choice selenium? I don't think I have ever seen mine take some and kind of figure they know what they need.
The selenium usually goes down very slowly unless the Sweetlix runs out. Then I see the selenium visibly going down.
Winding River Farm (Bev) said:
Deborah - do you see your girls using the free choice selenium? I don't think I have ever seen mine take some and kind of figure they know what they need.
I can't imagine a vet saying to use the MuSe. I don't even use BoSe anymore and it used to be recommended to use it on doe and kids, or lambs and ewes right after birthing. I keep out the free choice selenium (I think I learned about that from Deborah) and keep selenium gel if someone looks like they need a little help. So far so good. I also add BOSS to my grain mix and see on here that it is a source of selenium also.
Deborah - do you see your girls using the free choice selenium? I don't think I have ever seen mine take some and kind of figure they know what they need.
Oh, that is horrible! MuSe is the cattle version of BoSe! It's dosed at about 10X the dosage of BoSe, and yes, it will kill goats 100% of the time, and there is nothing you can do to save them. So sad AND avoidable. Any vet should have known better!
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Deborah Niemann-Boehle said:
Sweetlix Meat Maker minerals have 0 protein. You must be looking at a protein pail, not a simple mineral. I don't recommend protein pails. It's a very expensive way to get protein into your goats.
Melissa Johnson said:
Please accept my sincere condolences for this very tragic loss.
I give very little in meds to my animals (or to myself) and try to do a little computer research before I give things if I am doing it. I read somewhere else that a vet gave a women's animals shots of copper sulfate for a shortage and she lost 4. Another tragic mistake. Vets that do that must not keep up on things. My vet cringes on any copper being given -even the bolus. I do give that if needed though but not as often as I hear some breeders do.
I said above I don't use BoSe but I do keep the selenium gel on hand in case a lamb or kid looks a little weak but haven't needed that this year at all so far.
Melissa - I also live in Oregon. (Lorane area) and don't use Bo-Se as I said above. Don't use it on my sheep anymore either.
Deborah Niemann-Boehle said:
The selenium usually goes down very slowly unless the Sweetlix runs out. Then I see the selenium visibly going down.
Winding River Farm (Bev) said:
I can't imagine a vet saying to use the MuSe. I don't even use BoSe anymore and it used to be recommended to use it on doe and kids, or lambs and ewes right after birthing. I keep out the free choice selenium (I think I learned about that from Deborah) and keep selenium gel if someone looks like they need a little help. So far so good. I also add BOSS to my grain mix and see on here that it is a source of selenium also.
Deborah - do you see your girls using the free choice selenium? I don't think I have ever seen mine take some and kind of figure they know what they need.
Oh, that is horrible! MuSe is the cattle version of BoSe! It's dosed at about 10X the dosage of BoSe, and yes, it will kill goats 100% of the time, and there is nothing you can do to save them. So sad AND avoidable. Any vet should have known better!