I am so sad and ticked off

One of my does was due within a week....this am I went out and found she had twins and both were dead......they were both perfectly formed and were cuddled up together.  They were cleaned off! I hate to say it but I think the doe just walked away and didn't feed them!  This isn't her first kidding; I just don't understand it!  Has anybody else had this happen?

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  • Well Tuesday nite another doe gave birth to triplets, just got home from work and went to feed. The 3rd one had come out very recently and was quite wet. checked her over and she started shivering, dried her off but she didn't respond well so I rushed her into house and used a blow dryer on her while I heated a towel up in the dryer. wrapped her in towel and shouted at hubby to warm up some colostrum. got her to drink that and in about 30 minutes she was doing ok. tried to get mama to take her back but no way...so now we have a bottle baby in the kitchen in a dog crate...so relieved she made it....she is just the cutest little stinker lol..oh guess who she bonded with..hubby lol. I just want to thank you all for your sympathy and encouragement. really means a lot.
  • I guess we will buy the Premiere heat lamps for the future!   But also, we will try to avoid winter births...

  • so sad! we had our first kidding about 10 days ago, luckily Canela went into labor while my husband was still doing evening chores at the barn, so we were right there; Canela is a FF (I'm still learning: that means her first babies, right?) -- it was definitely below freezing during the birth, and we dried them as quickly as we could - then I was able to get each of the two to drink a little colostrum. we actually brought the babies into the house, and kept them in the downstairs bathroom with the window open so it would not be too warm. We brought them back out to Canela early in the morning and fortunately she welcomed them back. They did a better job nursing in the morning, but within an hour they were shivering, and we feared they would freeze to death...so we moved the whole family into a corner of the garage, with a hanging heat lamp and a space heater at a safe distance... now they are 10days old and seem to be doing well. Thanks to all the experienced commenters here because if we had not realized the danger of freezing to death, I am certain these gorgeous babies would no longer be alive...I will post pix when I figure out how to do it...

  • Ok thanks!!
  • The pressed glass is thicker. Unfortunately it's only available in 175 watts, which isn't enough when the temperatures are in the teens and below. I know some people use those bulbs, but in Illinois, I don't see the point in even owning anything less than the 250 watts. If it's warm enough for the 175 watts to make a difference, the kids don't need a heat lamp. I bought the 175 watt bulbs because I loved the idea of thicker glass, but I couldn't feel any warmth under them at all. 


    Myra Isaac said:

    What is the differenc between the smooth glass and pressed glass bulbs? Any advantages to one or the other?
  • What is the differenc between the smooth glass and pressed glass bulbs? Any advantages to one or the other?
  • Thanks!! It'll be a lot better than what we've got, that's for sure. I'm still waiting on babies and we have another really cold spell hitting tomorrow. I 'think' she'll kid this week sometime and I'm a little worried about the temps and the babies.

    Deborah Niemann-Boehle said:

    http://www.premier1supplies.com/detail.php?prod_id=131924&cat_i...

    I hate to ever say that anything is impossible, but I think it would be tough to have a barn fire if one of these fell down. They are top heavy, so they'd fall over sideways. The grill is massive enough that it's unlikely straw could get in there. And if it did fall against something and didn't fall on its side, the bulb is far enough from the grill that it would be tough for the temperature to build up enough to cause a fire. Since these people raise sheep, they designed a lamp that would make it almost impossible to have a fire.

    Myra Isaac said:

    Where do you get them? We only have the cheap ones and aren't happy with them. I'd love to get a couple good ones.
  • http://www.premier1supplies.com/detail.php?prod_id=131924&cat_i...

    I hate to ever say that anything is impossible, but I think it would be tough to have a barn fire if one of these fell down. They are top heavy, so they'd fall over sideways. The grill is massive enough that it's unlikely straw could get in there. And if it did fall against something and didn't fall on its side, the bulb is far enough from the grill that it would be tough for the temperature to build up enough to cause a fire. Since these people raise sheep, they designed a lamp that would make it almost impossible to have a fire.

    Myra Isaac said:

    Where do you get them? We only have the cheap ones and aren't happy with them. I'd love to get a couple good ones.
  • Where do you get them? We only have the cheap ones and aren't happy with them. I'd love to get a couple good ones.
  • We also use the Premier heat lamps. They might seem expensive, but when you consider the cost of a barn and all your animals, they are a bargain. I know two people who've had fires because of heat lamps. One person lost all of his lambs, and the other person lost all of her chicks. We would have had a fire if my daughter had not walked into the barn when she did. The cheap heat lamp was laying in the straw, and it was already burning, but it was small enough that a bucket of water put it out.

    Deborah


    Bev Sieminski, Winding Rvr Farm said:

    I have mention before the heat lamps from Premier Sheep supply.   They are so safe - would never use any other kind.   All lamps are of course dangerous but these are by far the best.   I also use only their bulbs and they arent' nearly as hot and because the holder is so large no one could get burned by them either.   Kind of expensive but well worth the money.  Also the bulbs last and last.    I have quite a few of them.   Used them for my chickens also when it was very cold.   Thank heavens we are having a mild winter here in Oregon -at least so far.  Have babies coming next week and have a lamp ready. 

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